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09-15-2007, 11:26
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Rear rear axle suspension
When the 8x8 was towed from Oklahoma, we suspended the rearmost axle as shown in image below for a couple of reasons, improve turning and to have spare tires available.
We used a chain after the axle was lifted with the crane.
Question: Is there an accepted method to this with some gizmo that will not require a crane or perhaps even a jack?
My plan is to drive with the axle suspended whenever possible to improve fuel economy for one thing.
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09-15-2007, 11:31
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RE: Rear rear axle suspension
r u willing to fab up anything to make it do this??..
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09-15-2007, 11:33
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RE: Rear rear axle suspension
Possibly, if it's an accepted way to do it, don't know about the rules of the road for this....
Maybe a truck junk yard would have something....
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1968 M49A2C modified with 1960 M756A2 truck bed and 1975 HIAB 765A knuckleboom, exhaust brake and more. (SOLD)
1969 Ford XM757 8x8, 5-ton Pershing 1A truck tractor...the "improved MV".
"Some things can't be made better, just differently......a lot of things actually"
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09-15-2007, 11:43
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Well first I would say is it worth the savings in fuel? Second; will the rear suspension be able to move and work as it should? I would think there could be some ill effects with the front half doing all the work and the rear hanging (rebound and compression). I would have to think that chaining up the rear would be the best way to support the axle. Giving it the ability to move a little bit. If you were to use a "bar" to raise and support the rear axle the shock of going down the road my hurt another component. I would think twice about raising the rear axle in order to save on fuel, and keep that to a emergency use only.
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09-15-2007, 11:56
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if u raised it i dont think u would wanta do it with anything that would be solid.. as to what Westech said as it could cause a chain of effect.. i guess i was kinda thinking of making a airbag type set up or something can could allow it to move a little bit but yet keep it up outta the way..
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09-15-2007, 12:39
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Try a truck junk yard, look at the tag axle of a tri-axle dump truck. It raises and lowers via a dash mounted switch. Springs raise it for cornering and air bags lower it for more wieght capacity.
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09-15-2007, 12:49
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Originally Posted by joq867
Try a truck junk yard, look at the tag axle of a tri-axle dump truck. It raises and lowers via a dash mounted switch. Springs raise it for cornering and air bags lower it for more wieght capacity.
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exactly what i was talking about..
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09-15-2007, 14:55
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You could also look at steerable tag, which would give you the option of leaving it down while cornering. They use them on some tri and alot of quad axle dump trucks.
Cool looking truck by the way.
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09-15-2007, 15:48
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Thanks for your responses, I'll do some research. It would only be for hwy use, of course.
Monty, I love that truck, it is great to work on, lots of features, zero rust with all the aluminum, better hp to weight ratio of just about any MV (at least w/o a trailer). I have had many systems taken apart and start to get things together now. Driving it should be interesting.
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Avatar: XM757 in OK prepared for 1,000 mile trip home. Part of 6,000 mile journey in 2006.
1968 M49A2C modified with 1960 M756A2 truck bed and 1975 HIAB 765A knuckleboom, exhaust brake and more. (SOLD)
1969 Ford XM757 8x8, 5-ton Pershing 1A truck tractor...the "improved MV".
"Some things can't be made better, just differently......a lot of things actually"
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09-15-2007, 18:16
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Originally Posted by Westech
Well first I would say is it worth the savings in fuel? Second; will the rear suspension be able to move and work as it should? I would think there could be some ill effects with the front half doing all the work and the rear hanging (rebound and compression). I would have to think that chaining up the rear would be the best way to support the axle. Giving it the ability to move a little bit. If you were to use a "bar" to raise and support the rear axle the shock of going down the road my hurt another component. I would think twice about raising the rear axle in order to save on fuel, and keep that to a emergency use only.
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