ida34

The link posted above is from the CDL manual. Do not use this as a reference. When they make the manuals they take legalize and bring it down to an easily understood language. Most assume that the person looking at the manual is a commercial operator in the first place. Look for the actual law as it pertains to driver's licenses. Most states have an exception section which covers recreational and personal use vehicles along with farm exceptions.

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motorolanut

I titled my M813A1 in Wv for #25990 lbs to avoid the CDL issue, but I still put Class B plates on it though......if you don't exceed 26000, I would not worry about it.....

You can always say Farm use only...LOL

akexc

Well, the DMV opened today, and they confirmed what I've been told by the HP. In Kansas, it is the GVWR that matters.

On an M51A2, that is 42K lbs. You need either a non-cmmercial or commercial class B license.

Antique is not valid for that high a usage.

Looks like I'll need to go take a test.

akexc

Update for anyone in KS who might be interested.

If you keep asking questions, you may get the answer you want. Don't actually know how the law reads, but the county registered this truck for me as a 48K lb farm vehicle.

As a farm vehicle, I can drive it on a standard KS driver's license.

Now we'll just have to see what happens when I drive it. With this much confusion everywhere, I'm not very confident.

We'll see.

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"You're already flying upside down. You might as well turn on the smoke and have some fun."
- Laurence Gonzales - "Deep Survival"

jwaller

farm tags exist in almost every state. and there are some restrictions you must follow while using them. read them.

now what you have gone thru is what most of us can get by with and make ourselves feel better. BUT remember the DOT cop that pulls you over is not going to like picking thru the regs to find what it is your telling him about how you have done what it is your doing.

he is going to write you a stack of tickets (very expensive tickets) and it's going to cost you a lot of your time and quite possibly a lot of your money to try and convince a judge otherwise.

my suggestion is to enjoy your victory for a few days and plan on getting the proper license and tags before you find the wrong DOT cop that is having a bad day.

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maybefixit

Does this farm tag clear the Catch-22, allowing you to get your CDL and inspection?

akexc

I guess my explanation wasn't clear. According to the county, licensing this truck on a farm tag for 48000 lbs is legal. I have the tag. According to the state DL regs, and the HP inspector at the DMV, it is legal to drive a farm vehicle at this weight with a regular DL.

My only "victory" was wading through all the misinformation from people that didn't know the law.

I could certainly have someone in LE pull me over and not understand the rules. I've seen enough of that already. However, I have printed the KS DL regs showing the exception for a farm vehicle, and it's tagged with the proper weight. He could take exception with the county treasurers office, but at that point, I believe I would have a pretty good case with a judge, if it went that far.

Near as I can tell, I'm legal, and have no intention of needing a Class B license.

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"You're already flying upside down. You might as well turn on the smoke and have some fun."
- Laurence Gonzales - "Deep Survival"

BEASTMASTER

if the truck hasn't been reg before ,no one knows what the gvw is. just tell you're ins co. you want it at 25k lds or 24k lds what ever you want. just keep it away from the 26k lds. you can put the gross at 100k and no one will say anything because they charge you $ 15 a thousand lds up here in ma.