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07-13-2009, 22:10
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Private
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SHERRILL, IOWA
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5 ton turning radius
My 5 ton xm820 has mutch to be desired in the world of turning radius. The wheel stops are welded to the spindle. I'm afraid that if I were to alter them to tighten up the turning radius I may damage the knuckles for the front drive axle. Has anyone attempted this and if so how tight can you go?
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07-13-2009, 22:15
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ROCK=older then dirt Moderator
Join Date: May 2005
Location: gainesville, ga.
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the 820 has the same wb as the 819, takes 40 acres to turn, thay are long wb trucks
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Ron
Gainesville, Ga.
vietnam-1/66-8/68
"Technical Manuals are the path to Illumination... Download, Study Learn"---rlwm211 42 5t? autocar tractor, gone
43m20, 12t, converted to tractor, gone
52m52, tractor, gone
73m819, tractor/wrecker AKA Wrecked Wrecker
77xm977 10t 8x8, to be a xm 983 sold 
What ever else that can be drug home
Use CUCVs, a small step below BOBBERS as wheel chocks
GOD help the MV world if i win the LOTTERY
LONG LIVE BIG GREEN IRON
Last edited by 73m819; 07-14-2009 at 08:29.
Reason: fixing typo, typing challenged
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07-13-2009, 22:20
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Slidell, LA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DEUCERV
My 5 ton xm820 has mutch to be desired in the world of turning radius. The wheel stops are welded to the spindle. I'm afraid that if I were to alter them to tighten up the turning radius I may damage the knuckles for the front drive axle. Has anyone attempted this and if so how tight can you go?
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I own a M820A2 so I know what you are saying. We have ditches on the sides of the road and streets here and it's a bitch to maneuver in my neighborhood. One wrong turn and you're in the ditch.
I just consider it part of the price you pay to own one of these LARGE trucks!
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07-14-2009, 02:01
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Colonel
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Alaska
Posts: 281
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I agree with Ron.
If you are old enough, you might remember Dave Dudley, or Box Car Willy.
As they made this song famous.
Dave Dudley - Give Me Forty Acres
click here to download this song
He was headed into Bean town in a big long diesel truck
It was his first trip to Boston he was havin' all bad luck
He was going the wrong direction down the one way street in town
This is what he said when the police chased him down
Give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig round
It's the easiest way that I found
Some guys can turn it on a dime or turn it right downtown
But I need forty acres to turn this rig around
When he finally found where to unload he had a dreadful shock
His trailer pointed toward the road and his cab right to the dock
As he looked around him through his tears he made the sound
Give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig round
Give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig round
It's the easiest way that I found
Some guys can turn on a dime or turn it right downtown
But I need forty acres to turn this rig around
When he finally got unloaded he was glad to leave the town
He was very very happy goin' back to Alabam
When up ahead he saw a sign said you are northward bound
He said give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig round
I say give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig round
It's the easiest way that I found
Some guys can turn on a dime or just turn it right downtown
But I need forty acres to turn this rig around
He was drivin' down the right lane when ahead he saw a sign
He had to make a left turn but he could not gettn' in the line
The tears were streamin' down his cheeks and they all heard him yell
Give me forty sticks of dynamite and I'll blow his rig to .......
Give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig round
It's the easiest way that I found
Some guys can turn on a dime or turn it right downtown
But I need forty acres to turn this rig around
I said Give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig round
It's the easiest way that I found
Some guys can turn on a dime......
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07-14-2009, 06:35
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Meadows of Dan, Virginia
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Remove the drive shaft between the rear axles for an instant improvement and super singles will help too.....
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Bjorn
MEP-018A (needs new generator head)
Avatar: XM757 in OK prepared for 1,000 mile trip home. Part of 6,000 mile journey in 2006.
1968 M49A2C modified with 1960 M756A2 truck bed and 1975 HIAB 765A knuckleboom, exhaust brake and more. (SOLD)
1969 Ford XM757 8x8, 5-ton Pershing 1A truck tractor...the "improved MV".
"Some things can't be made better, just differently......a lot of things actually"
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07-14-2009, 06:50
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ROCK=older then dirt Moderator
Join Date: May 2005
Location: gainesville, ga.
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i pulled my rear driveline, still not much inprovement, still have to keep the 819 off the curb and out of the ditch
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Ron
Gainesville, Ga.
vietnam-1/66-8/68
"Technical Manuals are the path to Illumination... Download, Study Learn"---rlwm211 42 5t? autocar tractor, gone
43m20, 12t, converted to tractor, gone
52m52, tractor, gone
73m819, tractor/wrecker AKA Wrecked Wrecker
77xm977 10t 8x8, to be a xm 983 sold 
What ever else that can be drug home
Use CUCVs, a small step below BOBBERS as wheel chocks
GOD help the MV world if i win the LOTTERY
LONG LIVE BIG GREEN IRON
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07-14-2009, 06:59
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Meadows of Dan, Virginia
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Okay Ron, but it did help my deuce a lot, about 7-8 ft on the curb-curb turning circle...higher tire pressure helps a bit....of course, with the wrecker crane there is a lot of traction back there making it want to go straight.
Perhaps ten years ago, I separated the brake lines to the rear, so that I could brake each side independently of each other, like farm tractor or the 10-ton M125, but never completed the project. I experimented with an electric brake lock from a wrecker to lock up one side and there was an improvement for sure, got it little complicated to make a turn, that's all.
To this day, the brake lines remain separated, so one of these days.....
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Bjorn
MEP-018A (needs new generator head)
Avatar: XM757 in OK prepared for 1,000 mile trip home. Part of 6,000 mile journey in 2006.
1968 M49A2C modified with 1960 M756A2 truck bed and 1975 HIAB 765A knuckleboom, exhaust brake and more. (SOLD)
1969 Ford XM757 8x8, 5-ton Pershing 1A truck tractor...the "improved MV".
"Some things can't be made better, just differently......a lot of things actually"
Last edited by cranetruck; 07-14-2009 at 07:14.
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07-14-2009, 08:27
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ROCK=older then dirt Moderator
Join Date: May 2005
Location: gainesville, ga.
Posts: 7,065
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CT, its not so much wenting to keep going stright, the truck is just so dam long, as when backing into the driveway, the front is about in the ditch across the road and the rears are on the grass on this side to get it where i want it in one shot. its a double wide driveway , it takes all of it to get the 819 in its resting place. the 819 has found its share of curbs
i did notice lot less wheel bindup with the rear drive line removed, the two rear axles are not fighting each other
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Ron
Gainesville, Ga.
vietnam-1/66-8/68
"Technical Manuals are the path to Illumination... Download, Study Learn"---rlwm211 42 5t? autocar tractor, gone
43m20, 12t, converted to tractor, gone
52m52, tractor, gone
73m819, tractor/wrecker AKA Wrecked Wrecker
77xm977 10t 8x8, to be a xm 983 sold 
What ever else that can be drug home
Use CUCVs, a small step below BOBBERS as wheel chocks
GOD help the MV world if i win the LOTTERY
LONG LIVE BIG GREEN IRON
Last edited by 73m819; 07-14-2009 at 08:33.
Reason: another brain fart
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07-14-2009, 09:37
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Possum Connoisseur
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sand Rock, AL
Posts: 8,878
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MAN UP!!!!!
Like the man said, it's part of the price you pay to play the game.....if it was easy the sidewalk sissy fixing hair at the beauty shop would own one.
Adapt and overcome....I have operated these vehicles for over thirty years and still love them.
You may have to make some changes to your driveway or fill in same places but there are ways to make it easier.
I am in the process of putting in a new driveway to the Motor Pool because the Boss Lady said no more MV's through the front yard.
Hang in there.
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07-14-2009, 10:43
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Camo Hobbit
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ruston, La
Posts: 2,733
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I'm not seeing how going in the ditch in these is a real problem
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