M818 - Georgia CDL driving test? - Page 6 - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite

Makincold · 02-16-2011, 14:09

I'm going to get back there one day! Glad to hear its working though

joeM62 · 02-16-2011, 20:03

I just got the new CDL hand book for GA it said (The air brakes test, which you must take
if your vehicle has air brakes, including air over hydraulic brakes.) page 1-2 Section 1. Like
I got told when I was asking about using one of the 5tons to do this make sure everything works right and everything is up to par.

Ruppster · 02-16-2011, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeM62

I just got the new CDL hand book for GA it said (The air brakes test, which you must take
if your vehicle has air brakes, including air over hydraulic brakes.) page 1-2 Section 1.

The problem is the CDL manual is targeted at those who truly need a CDL, it's not usually intended to cover the legal requirements for someone driving a big truck for personal use. It assumes you will be driving in commerce. I highly recommend finding out what state statute covers the air brake requirement to see if it refers to being a requirement for those driving a "Commercial Motor Vehicle" (CMV). If it uses the term "CMV" the next step would be to see what that statute defines as a CMV. If it says a CMV is a vehicle "used in commerce" then as long as it's for personal use then it does not apply.

On another note if the manual says you need to have the air brake endorsement (it's actually a lack of restriction and not a true endorsement) for a vehicle with air over hydralic brakes then they should have to accept an M813 or M818 for the test. If they want to say it is not acceptable then how can they say you need to have the endorsement? Kind of a Catch 22.

Ruppster

sterlun · 02-17-2011, 00:38

It is a catch 22 but they will refuse the 818 because it is not a FULL air brake system. The manual clearly states that 3 essential requirements must be met in GA to obtain CDL with air brake endorsements (and in GA it is an actual endorsement).

Air Brake Check (Air Brake Equipped Vehicles
Only)
Failure to perform all three components of the air
brake check correctly will result in an automatic
failure of the vehicle inspection test. Air brake
safety devices vary. However, this procedure is
designed to see that any safety device operates
correctly as air pressure drops from normal to a
low air condition. For safety purposes, you will use
wheel chocks during the air brake check. The
proper procedures for inspecting the air brake
system are as follows:
 Shut off the engine, chock your wheels, if
necessary, release the tractor protection
valve and parking brake (push in), fully
apply the foot brake and hold it for one
minute. Check the air gauge to see if the
air pressure drops more than three pounds
in one minute (single vehicle) or four pounds in one minute (combination
vehicle).
 Begin fanning off the air pressure by
rapidly applying and releasing the foot
brake. Low air warning devices (buzzer,
light, flag) should activate before air
pressure drops below 60 psi.
 Continue to fan off the air pressure. At
approximately 40 psi on a tractor-trailer
combination vehicle, the tractor protection
valve and parking brake valve should close
(pop out). On other combination vehicle
types and single vehicle types, the parking
brake valve should close (pop out).

Step 3 cannot be done because the vehicle is not equipped and therefore disqualifies your ability to earn the endorsement.

As far as CMV, if it's for personal use you can get the regular class A like myself and some others. This license does not require ANY endorsements. I can drive a double, tanker, air brakes, whatever as long as it's not for profit/hire (crazy). But the test questions still come from the CDL manual and includes air brake questions. Basically, you need to know everything you would for the CDL exams. Just no road test. If the vehicle meets the weight limits of a CMV it doesn't matter how it will be used, it will still require some type of special license.

Squirt-Truck · 02-17-2011, 19:27

In Georgia, if used in commerce, a vehicle or combination vehicle over 10,000# is a CMV. (As of last Tuesday last week directly from the training officer.) CDL requirement is 26,001, class A or B depending on if you pull a trailer. Commercial or Non-Commercial, again "if used in commerce".

Gunnermac · 03-23-2011, 00:17

Just for everyone's info, the noncommercial license that used to be class A or B is now class E or F. Unfortunately someone forgot to tell the folks at DDS customer services about the change. I called to ask about the written test for class E & F and was told there was no such thing As an E or F class. I was looking at the 2010 DDS handbook and title 40 at the time. After I asked why it was referred to on page 18 of the handbook, the person I was talking to admitted they had not been issued new books. Ga DOT also have not been updated, they do have laptops to look up the updated law. I have yet to find out what is in the written test. As someone stated before, no road test is required. There is also a specific exemption for "any self propelled or towed vehicle that is equipped to serve as temporary living quarters, camping or travel purposes and is used solely as a family or personal conveyance" ( Ga Code 40-5-23 sub(c). I wonder if I put a cot and cooler in my 5 ton, would that be cool?

sterlun · 03-23-2011, 01:07

I'm not sure but I think it has to have a toilet.

I've heard the info about Class E & F before. My license, however (issued this year) says Class A on the license.

SETOYOTA · 03-23-2011, 11:07

my Non- commercial CLass A Ga license was issued 9-29-10