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03-27-2011, 19:22
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Private
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Osage Beach, MO
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Trailer decoupling problem
I have a 915A1, and 2 M871 trailers. I have a continual problem on both in getting them unhitched. I can pull the release lever out about 2 inches, see the mechanism move out but never enough to decouple. I eventually get it done by moving forward,backward numerous times and by magic it will eventually let go. Not sure why it decides to work or why it doesn't work smoothly every time.
Does anyone have the same problem or know what the issue might be?
Thanks,
Glen
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03-27-2011, 19:28
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central NY
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Are you on level ground(side to side)?
Have you tried, after disconnecting airlines(setting trailer brakes), do you back into the trailer a bit?
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03-27-2011, 19:48
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Parkville, MD
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Sounds like you might need to pull the hitch plate apart, clean and lubricate it and re-install everything. Also make sure that the apron is greased because if they are dry and are a pain to pull out from under a trailer.
Second thing to check is that the trailer and tractor is level or atleast both on the same plain. When you crank the landing gear down the truck should ride up a good three or four inches from loaded height.
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03-27-2011, 20:24
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Private
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Osage Beach, MO
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Decoupling
Thanks for the replies so quickly. I do usually try to backup a bit to ease the pressure. Hasn't worked the last couple of days. It is not a perfectly level spot, but not too bad. How much should I crank up the jackstands?
If nothing else works, I guess I can haul it to a paved parking lot. I live in the country so not much pavement in my neighborhood
Should I see light under the plate or is that too much lift
Thanks,
Glen
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03-27-2011, 20:37
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Texas
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If the trailer is empty and the truck does not have air suspension you should crank the landing gear down till it just touches the ground. If you start to lift the truck you might end up putting pressure on the pin and the locking mechanism.
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03-27-2011, 20:47
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shawnee, Oklahoma
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Just remember to lift the safety latch on the front of the fifth wheel plate as you pull the main release !! It will make it hard to un-hook if you do not lift the safety latch !! Try that it is far easier then removing the fifth wheel on play wih the latching mechanism
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03-27-2011, 21:35
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Southern, Maryland
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It sounds to me what you are having is a release problem. The fifth wheels on military tractors doesn’t usually get used enough to wear out. The problem you are experiencing sounds more like a lube problem. Besides lubing the top of the fifth wheel with grease the underside parts also need to be lubed. We use SPL100 to lube the stuff on our fifth wheels at work. Any lube like it will work. First you need to lube all of the pivot points where the linkage is under the front, and then lift the back up; a 2 foot long piece of metal or wood comes in handy, so you don’t get the grease on you. Then lube the underside from the back. If the grease in the jaws of the plate look like it is hardening up from lack of use spray some lite lube in there to free things up. After lubing the fifth wheel couple and uncouple from a trailer a couple of times to spread things around.
When dropping a trailer the landing gear should just touch the ground.
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03-27-2011, 21:53
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sand Rock, AL
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If the trailer is loaded you need to crank the legs down to where they take pressure off the 5th wheel ( there is a LOW and HIGH gear for the landing gear)......if it is empty you can just lower it until the legs make good contact and slide right out from under it.
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03-28-2011, 10:55
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Colonel
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by M813A1
Just remember to lift the safety latch on the front of the fifth wheel plate as you pull the main release !! It will make it hard to un-hook if you do not lift the safety latch !!
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When I got my tractor I tried for a couple of days to get it unhooked without moving the saftey latch. Finaly I gave up read the TM and decided to go ahead and try lifting the saftey latch - It made it a lot easier...
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03-28-2011, 13:21
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4 Star General
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Interlachen Fl.
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Yea same here I have to take some pressure off the plate loaded or empty.
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