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04-05-2011, 22:33
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2 Star General
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
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Any difference in "early" 5 ton axle-side steering arms?
Hi Gang,
Synopsis:
Did the early M39 / M809 series trucks ever see any difference in steering arms on the axle? Meaning, was there ever a shorter or longer example?
Details:
My 5 ton-based project is continuing, slowly. I'm now looking at an interference issue between the steering arm on the axle and the U-bolts on the front driver's side leaf spring. Bottom line - my leafs are slightly outboarded from frame width and this is causing interference at the with the swing of the steering arm (as it bolts on top of the Kingpin).
I could cut, section, and reweld the arm I have (yes, I am familiar with this as well as the caveats), but I am wondering if there is perhaps a model that is just shorter than what I need.
The arm I have is 9.5" from top Kingpin center to middle of Tie Rod End.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts or help.
Best,
Bob
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Old Build:
1968 M35A2, repowered with Cat 3208T and Spicer 6855 .695 OD - mostly* sold
Ross Hydrapower steering - still available
Next build - Cummins 6CT, RTOO-14613, M35a2 Tcase, 5 ton axles, Arvin Meritor 16.5x7 Q series brakes, M35a2 sheetmetal*, 14.00x20 Michelin XL's on HEMTT wheels.
Status: Runs and drives, needs front driveshaft.
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04-06-2011, 03:57
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Colonel
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Arlington,Wa
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On my M328 Bridge support truck the pitman arm is over 9.5" , the arm starts out I think past c/l of left wheel . I will measure it on Wed. Will post legnth.
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04-06-2011, 10:57
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ROCK=older then dirt Moderator
Join Date: May 2005
Location: gainesville, ga.
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use a m54 (early 5t) steering, it does NOT have the RIGHT steering arm or hydraulic cylinder , the 809 5t series has different steering with a hydraulic cylinder.
By the way, Im looking for a 5t front spring perch and a RIGHT steering arm
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Gainesville, Ga.
vietnam-1/66-8/68
"Technical Manuals are the path to Illumination... Download, Study Learn"---rlwm211 42 5t? autocar tractor, gone
43m20, 12t, converted to tractor, gone
52m52, tractor, gone
73m819, tractor/wrecker AKA Wrecked Wrecker
77xm977 10t 8x8, to be a xm 983 sold 
What ever else that can be drug home
Use CUCVs, a small step below BOBBERS as wheel chocks
GOD help the MV world if i win the LOTTERY
LONG LIVE BIG GREEN IRON
Last edited by 73m819; 04-06-2011 at 16:06.
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04-06-2011, 12:14
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4 Star General
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vermont
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Ron give white owl a call
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04-06-2011, 16:02
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Colonel
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: falmouth, ky
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I got mine from Red Barn Customs . Great to deal with $35.00 for 2 arms .
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04-07-2011, 18:13
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2 Star General
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
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Thanks, Dave. Called Red Barn today and they're checking on it for me.
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Old Build:
1968 M35A2, repowered with Cat 3208T and Spicer 6855 .695 OD - mostly* sold
Ross Hydrapower steering - still available
Next build - Cummins 6CT, RTOO-14613, M35a2 Tcase, 5 ton axles, Arvin Meritor 16.5x7 Q series brakes, M35a2 sheetmetal*, 14.00x20 Michelin XL's on HEMTT wheels.
Status: Runs and drives, needs front driveshaft.
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04-07-2011, 18:14
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2 Star General
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OSO
On my M328 Bridge support truck the pitman arm is over 9.5" , the arm starts out I think past c/l of left wheel . I will measure it on Wed. Will post legnth. 
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Thanks! Specifically looking for an arm that's *shorter* than 9.5" between centers of kinpin and Tie Rod End.
Best,
Bob
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Old Build:
1968 M35A2, repowered with Cat 3208T and Spicer 6855 .695 OD - mostly* sold
Ross Hydrapower steering - still available
Next build - Cummins 6CT, RTOO-14613, M35a2 Tcase, 5 ton axles, Arvin Meritor 16.5x7 Q series brakes, M35a2 sheetmetal*, 14.00x20 Michelin XL's on HEMTT wheels.
Status: Runs and drives, needs front driveshaft.
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04-07-2011, 18:32
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ROCK=older then dirt Moderator
Join Date: May 2005
Location: gainesville, ga.
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BOB, the 9.5 RIGHT arm is ONLY used on the 809 series, the 54 series DID NOT have a RIGHT steering arm, same front axle only different steering actuation
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Ron
Gainesville, Ga.
vietnam-1/66-8/68
"Technical Manuals are the path to Illumination... Download, Study Learn"---rlwm211 42 5t? autocar tractor, gone
43m20, 12t, converted to tractor, gone
52m52, tractor, gone
73m819, tractor/wrecker AKA Wrecked Wrecker
77xm977 10t 8x8, to be a xm 983 sold 
What ever else that can be drug home
Use CUCVs, a small step below BOBBERS as wheel chocks
GOD help the MV world if i win the LOTTERY
LONG LIVE BIG GREEN IRON
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04-09-2011, 04:12
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2 Star General
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boulder, CO
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Thanks for the pointer, Ron.
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Old Build:
1968 M35A2, repowered with Cat 3208T and Spicer 6855 .695 OD - mostly* sold
Ross Hydrapower steering - still available
Next build - Cummins 6CT, RTOO-14613, M35a2 Tcase, 5 ton axles, Arvin Meritor 16.5x7 Q series brakes, M35a2 sheetmetal*, 14.00x20 Michelin XL's on HEMTT wheels.
Status: Runs and drives, needs front driveshaft.
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04-09-2011, 17:53
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Colonel
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Jax, FL
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If your looking for a shorter left steering arm, you can use a right steering arm that originally connected to the hydraulic cylinder on later M54's and 800 series 5 tons. That's what I did on my bobbed truck to correct the steering ratio to work with my shorter custom made pitman arm.
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