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Old 12-05-2011, 11:41   #1 (permalink)
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I am finally thinking about getting a 5 ton. I want a M925 or a M813a1. From general searching I see that the M925 series 5 ton has a few upgrades over the M813a1 series trucks. I was wondering if the M813a1 would have any advantages over the newer M925 besides probably being cheaper? Any help would be appreciated. This would just be a hobby truck and it would not be used as a daily driver or anything like that.
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Get them both. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. I think the 813 has a couple things going for her though. I like the manual tranny and the looks of the 813. However, I don't care for the sprag transfer case on the 813. Also you're more likely able to register an 813 as a historical vehicle depending on where you live.
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I agree with Mike, manual is nice when you want it. By far the biggest advantage to me is registration, historic is affordable.
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A straight 925 when compared against a M813 comes out on top in my opinion. The only advantage the M813 might have is it's a manual transmission (if you prefer a manual), and some parts may (just guessing on parts availability) be more readily available. I have found a source for anything I need for my 813, and anything I anticipate I'll need. I haven't looked for a 939 truck, but others have stated here that some parts are hard to come by. Also, you'll probably need a cdl or air brake endorsment for the 925, whereas you can get by without it on an 813. Opinions vary on that, so check your state laws.

They have the same engine, but the 925 has an automatic transmission. I understand the 925 has a faster road speed. The 925 is a bit roomier in the cab. The 925 has airbrakes as compared to the 813's air over hydraulic. The 925 has an air shift front axle vs. the sprag on the 813. Also, the 925 is probably going to be newer. In terms of weight and dimensions they are comparable with the 925 weighing a little more than a 813w/w.

That's all my 5 ton rookie opinion, take it for what it's worth. Many here have extensive experiance with both trucks. I own an 813, but I've only "owned" a 939 truck in Army service and havent had much hands on one at all. As a hobby truck the 813 is sweet. The 925s were terribly expensive when I bought my 813, but the prices have come down in some areas quite a bit.

Which M925 series were you looking at? A M925A1 has super singles, and a M925A2 has some significant differences over an A0/A1.
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What are you going to do with it ?

If its going to be a highway vehicle I think the 925 might be a little better. The 925 is more complex than the 813, many safety features. I have a new to me 932a1 and am spending time in the tm's to fix the little issues and learn the truck. Technical expertise on this forum is better on the 813. Part availability will be better for the 813. I like the looks of the 813 better but since I'm planning on doing some towing I thought the 9 series truck would be easier. I didn't spend anymore for my m932a1 than I would have for a 8 series tractor. The cab is great on the 9 series as well as the air shift front drive. Many things to consider. Study about both and decide. Either will be fun.
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I never even thought about aesthetics, but yea the 813 wins. The 939 series isnt bad at all, but everyday I look at the 813 and think, "dam, that's a sexy looking old truck".
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813 all the way...how can you not love that dead sexy 809-series punim
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The 925 is easier to drive, AND quieter (hood insulation and exhaust routed behind the cab). The cab sits higher making it a taller step to climb in. The body on the 800 series will last you longer, better quality steel used. The 925 is prone to some serious rust issues, especially the hood and window frames.
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Congrats on the new truck. It looks great.
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