After reading another thread on 923s and the comment about CDLs, I thought I would post this.
Yesterday, I had to schedule a seminar on CDL requirements for our business agent training coming up next month.
In doing so I spent a fair amount of time on the phone with the head of CDLs inthe State of Illinois. This came about becuase of a letter being sent to all CDL holders about medical information and a new DOT regulation/database.
If you are a private party using your truck for personal use -- not commercial, not production agriculture, just running around, going to the Home Depot moving your new girl friend in. You DO NOT need a CDL to operate any of our trucks.
What you do need is a Class B endorsement for anything over 26,001 GVWR, providing the towed vehicle is not more than 10,000. i.e. bobtail tractor, 5 ton what ever. you get 36,000 total.
You would need a Class A for a tractor trailer/combination of 26,001 and more than 10,000 being towed. Or I would think a 5 ton flat towing a 5 ton.
I inquired about the airbrake endorsement for bobtailing a 915 or even a 5 ton. He said that th eonly way to get an air brake endorsement is with a CDL. They do not issue air brake endorsements for non-CDL Class A or B endorsements. And he stated you don't need them for your private vehicle.
I know this will start a few debates, but since this came from the guy who runs the whole CDL program for the state, I would pass it on.
BTW you need a Class B for a tank -- I asked.
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I have a class A non CDL in Illinois with air brake endorsement. It was just issued by the DMV a year and a half ago. I had to take the same test as a CDL driver, but don't have to do the expensive drug testing stuff.
wow. He said they don't issue them that way. Wouldn't you guess what goes on in the field is different that what they say happens. Oh well. I'll see what they do when I go for mine. . . .
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While a 9 mm or .40 caliber bullet may or may not expand, it is an undeniable fact that a .45 caliber bullet will never shrink.
Did you look into what plate you would purchase in this case? I use my trucks for production ag. I would like to also be able to go pick up items from auctions in other states. If there was a reasonably priced personal plate I would license one of my spare trucks and be all set.
I had a CDL and dropped it to a class A. The state was going to make me join a drug testing pool at a cost of over $200 a year. All this just to haul grain a few days a year.
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If they keep that up I am going to grow a second head that breathes fire!
I'm working on a FMV plate for the green addiction. hope to have it finished and drafted inthe next week or so, then introduced in January.
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While a 9 mm or .40 caliber bullet may or may not expand, it is an undeniable fact that a .45 caliber bullet will never shrink.
Well you got a thanks from me because I've been pondering this for some time. Here in Texas I have the big 923 and only have a regular dl, and for the record, I'm just going to haul flowers in it. It's just my FUN vehicle.
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I rented a big full size penske truck with air brakes last week and was thinking how the heck they rent this or allow the average person to drive this with no cdl !!! Same with the giant motorhomes you have to have a license for a scooter but not a 40' motor home!!!!!
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