The 246/819 seems to handle a heavy lift tow a lot better then a standard wrecker , does not seem to have the going lite front end problem, has to be the long wheel base coupled to where the crane is mounted
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I drove the M62, M543, and the M816. I have done my share of recoveries with all three, some times under stressfull conditions. The 62's and 543's were indeed light in the steer axel when towing a heavy load. I found the M816 to have more power over all and was a tad more stable when turnning heavy tows. The 936's look more robust to me. I am not a fan of having to wait untill the air builds before you can get off the brakes, Just incase you have to get outta Dodge rikitik. The trucks were more useful for the rotating crane in general. We were constantly loading and unloading all kinds of material. and when supporting armor units I welded rubber track inserts to the end of the boom to exercise the main gun on the tanks. (worked great). I would brag about the M816 more except we have to pull the front axel out if it cause something locked up the left front wheel. but it is still an awsome machine to have in the yard.
I have used both. I was a recovery specialist in the Army. The 819 can take more abuse and just seemed to be a stronger vehicle. The 936 which was new when I had one was a great truck for convoys and longhaul recovery. Comfort is the biggest difference to me, but the 936 "felt" better on the highway.
The best answer of all , is this one of experience, it is what the difference really is and thats it , And well said and simple , .... As for the guy who said the auto goes every 10,000 miles, that is 100% opinion,and not true... the 939 series trucks actually put more convoy miles on than any trucks in history, in the first and subsequent Iraq wars, The auto probs that happened early on were 100 % driver error and all three Army, Allison, and AM General came up with the same answers in independent analysis , after appropriate driver training on shift procedures , of this vehicle the problems for the most part went away, The 809 series wreckers feel stronger because of that low trans, actually to low for that engine, but to me that is what makes am so cool, Side by side 809 to 939 series in a tractor pull, since I did it, the 809 was like watching paint dry, but pulled that sled out to the parking lot, the 939 in selection 5 pulled that sled at a high speed into the next county, just an fyi Now as I read the previous post, i have to say thats were the wrecker /boom/and truck together info is u need, He has more than the experience to all about what he is saying...
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I drove the M62, M543, and the M816. I have done my share of recoveries with all three, some times under stressfull conditions. The 62's and 543's were indeed light in the steer axel when towing a heavy load. I found the M816 to have more power over all and was a tad more stable when turnning heavy tows. The 936's look more robust to me. I am not a fan of having to wait untill the air builds before you can get off the brakes, Just incase you have to get outta Dodge rikitik. The trucks were more useful for the rotating crane in general. We were constantly loading and unloading all kinds of material. and when supporting armor units I welded rubber track inserts to the end of the boom to exercise the main gun on the tanks. (worked great). I would brag about the M816 more except we have to pull the front axel out if it cause something locked up the left front wheel. but it is still an awsome machine to have in the yard.
Looked at you photo album. I need a M816 just to work on transmissions.
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M1031 (Doghead S.R.M., 255/85R16's, aux. heater in the rear box, cigarette lighter, solar powered battery charger, trailer hitch front and rear, trailer brake controller, added civy trailer wiring harness, added four solar fans to box, installed luggage rack and container for breaker bar and stretcher.)
M101A2 (255/85R16's, tongue jack, added civy tail lights! spare tire carrier)
The gearing difference is in the transfercase it is a overdrive case in high that is on the 936, as to ride on road 936 is roomier and will run faster, but as to pulling power no way will a 936 keep up with a 816 hook back to back and the auto transmission will just slip and the hydraulic winches will just bypass when they get near the twenty thousand range. And can't backup in low range is for the birds
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My M62 has plenty of grunt, gets the job done.. A really good truck truck for all round useage.
We were late for a vehicle collection at the disposal site (for an F350 ambulance) so no time for winching. Just hooked up and PULLED. no stopping it. And that farm unit was stuck well Down and in, and loaded with 39 tons of goop!
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