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Old 01-26-2012, 10:04   #1 (permalink)
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New member here from SC. I was looking at a 925 5 ton truck and I wanted to know if I need a CDL to drive it in SC.

Thanks very much!
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Short answer, You need a Class B to operate the M925 due to weight. Unless you register it light. There is no separate endorsement for air brakes in SC.

I would say yes.

However I would use the same argument many use with taxes; Tax law is complicated it's just easier to pay someone, DOT law can be complicated so sometimes it's just easier to have a CDL.
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In doubt, go get it.
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In some states if you register it for personal use only, then it's my understanding you don't need a CDL.
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Hello!

New member here from SC. I was looking at a 925 5 ton truck and I wanted to know if I need a CDL to drive it in SC.

Thanks very much!
Check your local laws.

Btw, there is no such thing as an air brake endorsement, but there is an an air brake restriction.
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In some states if you register it for personal use only, then it's my understanding you don't need a CDL.
Most states don't differentiate between vehicle class and commercial drivers license. In ND for example if you need a Class A or B you need to take the commercial test to gain the endorsement. However if operating the vehicle as non-commercial you aren't required to maintain a medical card.

California used to have a Non commercial Class A, this is mostly for the big RV's and tandem tow, and from my understanding has changed somewhat since I abandoned the state.

The nature of our Hobby is that anything larger than a M35 will need a Class B or Class A nationwide. For those classes it is simply easier to just get a CDL.

Your basic CDL is cheap even the medical card, and lets face it some of us could use an annual physical. Most vehicles are operated as non commercial so insurance is cheap and you don't need any expensive endorsements to operate them tank trailers can be iffy.

The problem is the CDL vehicle class situation across the board is convoluted and confusing. I'm sure the OP did a search was confused and posed the question here for clarification or a simple answer.

In the end I look at the CDl as a coupon, if you have it you can always find a job.
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Btw, there is no such thing as an air brake endorsement, but there is an an air brake restriction.
Semantics, if I have to take a test to get a hazmat, triples, doubles, etc. The test I have to take to get air brakes is under the same nature. An endorsement!

Just because it's not listed as such is superfluous.

The same goes for manual vs automatic.
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Air assisted hydraulics may or may not qualify as being Air brakes.

Vacuum assist also uses air pressure for it's assist, it's just air pressure on the other side of the diaphragm.
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Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

If you meet the wrong DOT guy you are going to get a ticket and then have to prove your case in court.....even if you win you will prob pay court cost and have to waste your time going to court.

With all the hungry trial lawyers out there having a CDL is proof that you take operating a large vehicle seriously and have learned the laws that govern their use.

If you have an accident that would help your case in court if you got sued.

I renew my CDL and keep my medical card valid because of all the clueless morons that are out on the highways looking for an accident to cause.
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Agree with Wreckerman 100%. Besides, if your current job tanks, you can get a commercial driving job.

In California, a class B with air brake endorsement is required to legally drive a deuce because:
1. It has three axles and weighs over 6000 lbs.
2. Any vehicle with a compressor and air pressure gage as part of the brake system is considered to have air brakes, even air over hydraulic.

Getting a CDL is not all that hard or scary, it just take a little time and effort (studying and practicing). After all, the guy that picks up your garbage has a CDL. If he can do it, you can.
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