I have the new style fifth wheel on my 818 and I am having a hard time getting it to release the kingpin. I have read the -10 but still no help. My plunger handle has a triangular handle on it and there is a second lever with a small circular handle on it. I am on my own trying to drop the trailer any hints other than get some one to help? The tractor is at a nearly 90 angle to the trailer to help complicate things!
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You might have everything in a bind. Anyway to straighten out tractor and trailer?
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I can feel them move? How do you grease it up with the trailer is on it? Would Kroil oil work or does it have to be something heavy like grease? I have even thought of setting up my farm jack on the platform and lifting the trailer up some so I can use the jacks to reduce weight on the fifth wheel, right now the jacks won't raise the trailer any higher.
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Get a grease gun with the extended tube on it and start emptying the tubes one after the other. Just put that thing in every nook and crack you can find and pump it... then when you get the trailer off get a handful of it and grease the plate and any internals you can see just globs. Never enough grease.
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I can feel them move? How do you grease it up with the trailer is on it? Would Kroil oil work or does it have to be something heavy like grease? I have even thought of setting up my farm jack on the platform and lifting the trailer up some so I can use the jacks to reduce weight on the fifth wheel, right now the jacks won't raise the trailer any higher.
Kroil will help, if nothing else it may soften some of the hardened grease that in the hitch already.
As for the landing gear, you may want to retract it enough that you can put some boards underneath the pads and then try lifting the trailer (I usually stack a few 2x12's, but if you're using more then 2 then I would suggest screwing them together).As for using a jack, I'm pretty hesitant to lift any trailer from one point, I much prefer a two point lift. That whole "keeping the wheels on the ground" thing.
Also, is it possible to pull the truck & trailer out to a level pad, unhook it, grease the snot out of it, and then back it in place?
Sometimes the trailer kingpin will be bound on the jaws of the fifth wheel you should try using the trolly valve to hold the trailer brakes and back the truck up a little that might work. And you should grease the surface of the fifth wheel when not under a trailer I am just concerned that you trailer might fuse to the fifth wheel and then you would not be able to turn.