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Old 07-10-2011, 09:05   #11 (permalink)
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I have ordered the original 5 ton seals, I am looking for the civilian/commercial gear oil seal that will work in these axles.
There is no such thing as a civilian equivalent to the seals.
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the reason for the grease and the double seal, is for deep water use, helps to keep the water out of the rears and bearings, for normal use with no high water use, I see no reason not to run gear oil in the hubs, In civy use this is the way these hubs were used, only the mil. use had the double seals and grease
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great info. I will save the seal numbers and buy a set for each axle now.
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great info. I will save the seal numbers and buy a set for each axle now.

There are no seal numbers in this thread, those are the bearing numbers.
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Hello all Dog Head is right here are the following pn # s and info for 809 series 5 ton :

Wheel Seal 5 ton G-744 : Ref # 7409550 Newstar # S-C422

Outer Oil Seal : Ref # 7413447 Newstar # S-E476

Wiper Seal Ref # 7409553 Newstar # S-E477

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All of the info is out of my vendors catolog that was from 2009, im not sure if I am still listed as a parts vendor I will find out, Mark
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Now that the seal numbers are on this thread, my question is where can we purchase seals.
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So those numbers are a current manufacturer? Or the company that supplied them to the mil?

I would think the big surplus shops will all have the seals.
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On the 5 tons there is a conversion available. this conversions is supposed to last vs. the old water forging seals were short life but were an attempt at waterproofing. This is how I understand what a heavy truck mechanic told me the other day. Maybe some one can comment on this with education for us all.

When driving these trucks for a living, I remember the wheel seals going out regular, along with regular failure of the wheel cylinders, but that is another thread.
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