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Old 07-30-2010, 09:33   #1 (permalink)
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Default Gasoline and WMO mix ?

I want to use recyled fuel in my multifuel M35A2 deuce and a halfs. They are NOT daily drivers.

I have a shop giving me a barrel or so a week of gasoline salvaged from junked vehicles. I am also collecting waste motor oil, but its seems harder to come by - shops either burn their oil in a furnace or sell to recylers.

What is the strongest/best ratio of stale gasoline to WMO you would use as fuel long term in your multifuel ?

What is the highest ratio of gas to WMO you can safely filter thru a centrifuge ? ( I don't have the centrifuge yet )

Any way to filter salvaged gasoline to safely use in everyday gasoline powered civilian vehicles ?

Any other tips or suggestions for using salvaged gasoline ?
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My last Tank was as such, 35gal WMO on top of Diesel to top off the tank. I ran the tank down about half way then added in 10 Gal of Gasoline with plans of topping it off this weekend with WMO.

What I have found that works for me in the summer around here is 80/20% WMO/Gas. Spring and Fall is 50/50 WMO/diesel and 100% Diesel in the winter.

I have run 80/20% WMO/Diesel but Power output is less than normal and is reflected in the EGT temps.

I have the IP turned up on the Deuce and with 100% Diesel I can get to 1100+ Deg no problem, but with 80/20% I top out at about 950 Deg.

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The standard mix for 100 gallons of "Wreckerman's Special Deuce Elixer" is:

30 gallons WMO

30 gallons WVO

30 gallons diesel fuel

10 gals reg gas

I am in a mild climate so I don't have gelling issues......the gas keeps the WVO thinned out.

My trucks seem to like it just fine.

Your milage may vary.
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I have actually run into a small supply of aviation WMO. I was told that the WMO is 15W50 and above including some 100w. Anybody see any problems with burning this?????
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Thin it out with some gasoline and/or diesel and you will be fine. Guys burn waste gear oil, as long as its filtered (nasty stuff in there) and thinned down.

My last batch was roughly 10g diesel in the bottom of the tank, 20gal WMO, 6 gal of 2 year old gasoline, and topped off the rest of the way with diesel. No reason for the numbers, just happens to be what I had on hand at the time.

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Gas Buggy Commercial Applications

My dad has a salvage yard and he uses the gas buggy. He uses the reclaimed gas in his rollback (460 Ford) and Michigan loader (swapped in smallblock Chev). He keeps a new filter in the glove box of the rollback. Sometimes the cars sit for several years before being dismantled, and the gas smells bad. If you have an older low compression gasoline engine, it will burn bad gas. The fuel mileage may suffer.
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Well I am a believer now! I had approx 1/2 tank of diesel (30 gallons or so) and I went out and poured in 9 gallons of waste peanut oil I cooked 2 turkeys in last Christmas. I heated it first and just let it run through a big paper filter thing I made then straight into the tank. I started it and drove it to the freeway and up to about 50mph. After about 2 miles or so I noticed that the engine was running slightly quieter and seemed a little smoother, ran another 18 miles. I parked it over night and started it this morning and it fired right up no problem. I will run the tank down and check the filters, then give another report.
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I can't the smell of gas & motor oil. I don't think the gas fully ignites the fumes or nasty truck runs well though if you can the headache
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I always fill up at 1/2 tank.I fill it with reg. gas one week and diesel the next week depending on diesel price.Then I mix with 5 gallons of WMO.During the winter I run reg.gas more mixed with WMO.I think it thins out the oil better than diesel.
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I've been playing around with WMO / Gasoline / Diesel ratios and this is what I think I know....

My truck, a bobbed M35A2, starts on the first crank with straight diesel.

With 70% WMO and 30% diesel it starts the same as with straight diesel (in warmer weather, not sure about cool weather yet and I'll run straight diesel when it's cold).

With 70% WMO and 30% gasoline I've got to crank it a bit to get it started.

The reason for the difference in starting is due to the "autoignition" temperature of the fuels.

Diesel auto-ignites at 410 F, gasoline from 475 F to 536 F, and WMO at 505 F (I need to do more research to confirm this number).

You'll probably want to thin WMO with something, gas or diesel or both. I'm buying my "thinner" at the pump, so I just get diesel because I know it works well, but I have run a batch of fuel that was about 70% WMO, 20% diesel and 10% gas and I couldn't tell any difference between it and the 70/30 WMO/diesel mix.

So... it seems to me adding some diesel too (maybe at least 10% or so?) will help the engine start easier and run smother.
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