first off im this is for educational purposes only... and i dont know if this breaks any laws and i dont support breaking any laws. but for all the people that are getting the tanks dipped just because they have a black color to them from mixing WMO y not just install a secondary tank with a regulated pump and pump the wmo into a small mixing tank before it is sent to the engine it would b some work and possible illegal in most if not all states but would keep you from getting tickets just for having your tank dipped for off road diesel. just an idea.
again im not telling u to break the law. just an idea to always have a clean fuel tank.
It is against the law to used untaxed off-road fuel on public roads.
It is not against the law to use "additives" in taxed on road fuel.
These additives can include WMO, WVO, transmission fluid etc in any ratio.
If I buy 100 gallons of on road fuel I have paid my fuel tax...even if I double the amount of fuel by adding something to it that
is good for the engine. They are taxing the amount of fuel you buy....not the number of miles you are driving.
That is my opinion and I'll defend it in court if necessary.
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It is not against the law to use "additives" in taxed on road fuel.
Seems as if The Great State of Alabama disagrees with you. Wayne
"Alabama Department of Revenue (ADOR), The Alabama Department of Revenue is responsible for administering Alabama’s fuel tax laws and collecting state fuel excise taxes. Alternative fuels such as E85 and biodiesel are considered taxable gasoline and motor fuel products. Any person, before engaging in the business of producing, selling, distributing or withdrawing from storage gasoline or motor fuel in Alabama, must make application to the ADOR to engage in such a business as a licensed distributor. Evidence of a surety bond, based upon the average monthly excise tax liability, must be provided to the ADOR before a license is issued. Licensed distributors are required to file monthly fuel tax returns with the ADOR. This includes any person producing alternative fuel for personal use."
im not worried about it at all. the only time im in the 5 ton is for fires or parades its an emergency vehicle of the fire department odds are they wont check it at all. but for all the other states and people that dont want to get fined for using additives. its not an additive if its mixed just before its sent to the motor its a "lubricant". and tht would my personal story if i personally owned a 5 ton and did this mod.
This discussion smacks of the
"Chicken and the Egg" argument.
No doubt using any substance in your deuce as fuel that has not had the government's share of the cost added to it is a crime if you are on the highway.
As to the percentage I am not sure myself. I prefer to not burn WMO because I do not have the proper filtering equipment to clean it before using it. I do add 2 stroke motor oil and a diesel additive to my fuel to improve the lubricity due to the ULSD blend we ar forced to buy.
It would take a chemist or someone very familiar with the nature of the testing process to offer an explanation as to how far can you go with "additives" and I am sure that the dye in off road diesel has a property in it which is designed to make it linger in a tank, perhaps long after the non-taxed fuel has been burned. Not sure but that would be the way of the revenue department I am sure.
I would ask the LEO's who are members here to maybe give some of their insight on this, unofficially of course....
RL
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It is against the law to used untaxed off-road fuel on public roads.
Not true. I have a Miscellaneous Motor Fuel License which allows me to burn anything flammible (including red died 'off-road' diesel) as long as I report the gallons used on a monthly basis and pay the road tax portion per gallon. Of course, if I pay the taxes on the fuel, it no longer becomes untaxed, so your statment would be true...
If I'm ever pulled over all I have to do is show the license, and it has happened to me once already. Showed the DOT man the license, he said have a nice day.
It was free, and you fill out your own monthly reports. You can even file a monthly report with a "No activity subject to a fee" if you didn't burn anything.
16.75 cents per gallon for SC state tax and 24.4 cents per gallon federal is cheap insurance in my books.
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What if you only put WMO from "your own vehical" in the trucks fuel tank? Haven't you already paid a state tax on the oil originally?
Yes, but you paid a sales tax, that goes to a different pot of money. They want your road tax too. Plus, it is no longer used for what it was sold as. It is now fuel.
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Avoid mixed fuel fines....
