Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite
Mark Forums Read

Reload this Page



» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Online Users: 287
99 members and 188 guests
2002ford , 212sparky , 2HIJOS2126 , 338lapua09 , 68 M52A1 , 6869704x4 , 73m819 , 91W350 , aiuduin , Alabama Mike , ARS1776 , bbf , Big K , Black19 , bubbahana , bugei , caliber1 , camoyj7 , Castle Bravo , chess , chuck-10 , Clayshootr , cliffyp , cornrichard , cpf240 , Csm Davis , DesertCJ79 , Detonation , deuceman51 , dezert ratt , DieselInfantry711 , Dieselking22 , dilligaf13 , dirtroadoutlaw , dodgedougak , eagle4g63 , edpdx , elevenbee , essayons07 , Feelin_froggy , FL77 , flighht2k5 , Fredo Corleone , fuzzytoaster , gentycam , Ghostdriver , goldneagle , Goose2448 , gunboy1656 , HanksDeuce , hndrsonj , HoJoPo , ICAT , ivbeenrokd , Jared , jhyatt7 , JILY , josh28 , juanprado , K9Vic , kc4wd , Killer_Junior , kpoling , loxahatcheeman , mactiredearg , martinwcox , Milhouse , motas2002 , nexgen91 , papabear , Patgonia53 , patracy , porkysplace , porouspickle , rchalmers3 , Recovry4x4 , Repo3004 , richter1978 , Ruppster , skajm , Skeeter , Speddmon , swbradley1 , TACTICAL6 , TheWeatherMan , Tinwoodsman , TMNT , trukhead , Tweeter166 , usmc81301 , waayfast , Wagthis , whistlepig , winerydale , wreckerman893 , wsucougarx , xtsix
Most users ever online was 902, 10-29-2011 at 04:09.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools

Old 02-06-2011, 10:36   #1 (permalink)
Star-Bellied Sneech
 
JCKnife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,085
JCKnife is on a distinguished road
Default Adventures in WMO

I finally got started with WMO today. I've had a drum in the garage for some time, and picked up a cheap-o HF hand-crank barrel pump (that may prove to be the weak link). Got the filter and housing from NAPA as indicated in other threads here.

Once the pump was assembled, the biggest challenge was getting a hose from the pump outlet pipe into the filter. Had to step down 4 times from 1" to 3/4" to 5/8" to 1/2". Rig looks like I'm keeping hose clamp companies in business.

Cranked out about 1/2 QT just to see what it looked like. Still awful black. I wasn't expecting golden honey but I thought it would look a little cleaner.

Set a 5 gal. can under the outlet hose and started really cranking. Got maybe a gallon into it when I notice some drops leaking out around the crank handle. Could it already be backpressure from the filter causing this? The oil is pretty cold, maybe 35 degrees this morning and was just under freezing all night. I assume it would flow better when warmer.

I'm going to crank out some more later and mix in old gas from the boat and power tools that has sat all winter (maybe 5 gal max?) and dump her in the deuce. What could go wrong?
JCKnife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 11:20   #2 (permalink)
LDS power baby
 
gimpyrobb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: cincy, Oh
Posts: 15,693
gimpyrobb will become famous soon enough
Default

I have seen some of the horrible freight pumps fail. One blew oil everywhere! That was dfd2010, ask him for info. It is quite a challenge to get everything plumbed up isn't it. Dumping the gas in the oil to be filtered makes pumping easier. It sounds to me like you don't have a pressure gauge on your filter setup, might want to add some/one. The filters will crush and be worthless around 100psi. The gauges will also let you know which filter is plugged if more than one is used. Finally, a hand pump?! Your gonna look like Popeye this summer, hehe.
gimpyrobb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 11:22   #3 (permalink)
Star-Bellied Sneech
 
JCKnife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,085
JCKnife is on a distinguished road
Default

No i don't have a pressure gauge. Good thought but man...something else to work in?!?

I eats me spinachk.
JCKnife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 11:32   #4 (permalink)
LDS power baby
 
gimpyrobb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: cincy, Oh
Posts: 15,693
gimpyrobb will become famous soon enough
Default

Well, the filter bases I use have many hook up/port options on them. I simply pulled out a plug and installed a gauge, sounds like yours might not be that easy. Keep in mind that the deuce fuel tank holds 50ish gal. You'll be turning that pump for quite some time to fill it up!
gimpyrobb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 11:34   #5 (permalink)
Star-Bellied Sneech
 
JCKnife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,085
JCKnife is on a distinguished road
Default

Yeah my filter housing has IN - OUT and that's it (I'll look again, but pretty sure...)

I think in the first year of ownership I've filled the tank twice. Not all of us drive like you do.
JCKnife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 12:42   #6 (permalink)
Star-Bellied Sneech
 
JCKnife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,085
JCKnife is on a distinguished road
Default

I ended up getting about 4.5 gallons filtered today and poured it in the tank. Washed it down with 1/2 gal of diesel plus what little was already in the tank. She fired right up, no smoke to note, ran very smooth. I want to say it sounded a little "less rattley" but that's probably just my imagination. But, for the record, shut off the master switch and fuel continued to flow (I figured it would) and just had no issues. Didn't leave the driveway, just idled for a few minutes. Still, very pleased.

Oh, and I did pour a little gas in the drum but not much. I don't want to turn a very mild fire hazard into an explosive risk. Just too many chances for sparks around that barrel.
JCKnife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 12:51   #7 (permalink)
LDS power baby
 
gimpyrobb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: cincy, Oh
Posts: 15,693
gimpyrobb will become famous soon enough
Default

Set it outside with a cover on it. No need to risk a garage full of tools for a few dollars saved.
gimpyrobb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 13:06   #8 (permalink)
Possum Connoisseur
 
wreckerman893's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sand Rock, AL
Posts: 8,879
wreckerman893 will become famous soon enough
Default

Tractor Supply (shameless plug) sells some great 12 volt pumps that will move a lot of liquid.

Just make sure you put a strainer on the pickup tube to keep crud from getting into the pump vane. I just use a piece of screen wire hose clamped to the end of the tube.

Also never pump to the very bottom of a source unless you know there is no water/crud in there.

The temptation is to get every drop of potiential fuel but if you gunk up filters you will go broke replacing them.
__________________
My karma ran over your dogma.

Wreckerman's rules of the road (and living in general)

Never play cards with a guy named "Ace".

Never shoot dice with a guy named "Slick".

Never buy a car from a guy named "Red".

And NEVER, EVER eat at a place called "Mom's".
wreckerman893 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 16:16   #9 (permalink)
General
 
panshark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
Posts: 470
panshark is on a distinguished road
Default

I got one of the HF hand cranks that I use to take wmo out of my final tank. I had 2 filters on it, the durn thing wouldn't pump good enough for the effort I was putting into it. I took off the fuel filter, kept the oil filter on, it pumps good enough now. I did that in the summer, I would have killed myself spinning that hand crank in winter with thicker oil.

Last edited by panshark; 02-06-2011 at 16:17. Reason: more info
panshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 20:14   #10 (permalink)
Sergeant Major
 
pacebm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Hartselle, Alabama
Posts: 130
pacebm is on a distinguished road
Default

Wreckerman - you got a link to the pumps you are talking about? I see the GPI pumps that mount on top of a fuel tank. Is that what you are talking about?
__________________
M35A2 (down but not out)
M715
M105A2 M101A3 M1102
MEP0016D 3kw
M1009

War Eagle
pacebm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fined for running WMO (not me) JCKnife Alternative Fuels 122 02-19-2011 00:12
Mack ENDT-673 on WMO Kalashnikov Alternative Fuels 5 11-09-2010 18:34
What makes the engine "Multifuel" & WMO in a cucv? Loco_Hosa Alternative Fuels 14 05-11-2010 15:47
WMO filtering idea juddspaintballs Alternative Fuels 11 03-25-2010 12:09
Best WMO to gas ratio with FDC bypassed? Hammer Alternative Fuels 3 10-14-2008 21:50

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 19:22.


Copyright 1999-2012 SteelSoldiers.Com No information or photos to be used without permission.