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Old 06-09-2011, 08:40   #1 (permalink)
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I have been reading everybodys different ideas on filtering wmo. I have been using 2 five micron filter bags one inside of other.. Hanging over a 5 gal bucket. I am working on building a setup with a 55 gal drum. my plan is to use the bags as a first stage filter into the drum. With two 5 micron bags and a 1 micron bag. Then to pump out of drum i am going to use a oil pump out of a 350 chevy engine. Through a spin on filter.. still in the process of gathering all of the parts to build so no pics yet. My question is for now are the bags good enough to run my truck untill i build my setup...

Now for removing the water... Gonna sound kinda redneck but i was thinking of maybe a turkey fryer....
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The bags work well. I get mine from Dudadiesel. The main thing is the micron rating and you have that covered with the 5 micron and 1 micron filters. All my oil is filtered through filter bags. So far I have used litterally hundreds of gallons of wvo and wmo that has been filtered through filter bags with no problems.
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Rather than a turkey fryer, I picked up something from GL that I think may work as a water separator. It is labeled as a grease separator.
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At some point in time you have to let some oil go......in an extreme emergency situation where every drop counted I would try to filter oil that had a lot of water in it but under normal circumstances I cut my losses.

You can set it out in the sun in a dark container and let the heat do some of the work for you and you can filter, filter, filter.

If the oil and water have emusified to the point where it looks like chocolate milk I would say it is too much trouble to fool with. I have 30-40 gallons like that.....I use it for fire starting and other non-fuel projects.

The best course of action is to find oil that has little or no water in it to begin with.

I have a 250 gallon tote that was full to the brim......I have no doubt that there is water in the bottom of it......I will prob leave at least a foot and a half of oil in there unless it looks water free.

Trying to boil the water out in an open container could result in you making an ash of yourself.

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I'm thinking the best way to get rid of the water it to simply filter it through a media that absorbs water more readily than oil.. and the answer is pretty odd. PAPER. Paper will NOT disintegrate in oil yet will absorb water more readily than oil.

Although the Frantz bypass filters are proven, I don't want to pay $250 for one.... I am just going to fab up a holder and pass the oil through it... not really looking for it to filter, just absorb water.

Tractor Supply as fuel/water filters and the carton says that the filter will hold approx 1 cup of water per $10-15 filter element. TP is cheaper and would hold may more water.

So its off to the garage to make me a TP filter.
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If the oil and water have emusified to the point where it looks like chocolate milk I would say it is too much trouble to fool with. I have 30-40 gallons like that.....I use it for fire starting and other non-fuel projects.
tests have shown that mixing in a percentage of gasoline (10%) with no heat has completed the seperation of the foam.

from that point pumping it through a spin on water seperator with a clear drain bowl should help eliminate it.

you could also try to syphon/drain off the bottom of the tank into a bucket till there is little/no sign of water before running through an in-line water seperator.
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a unit like this should help

Racor Alliance Diesel Fuel Filter Water Seperator 6120R | eBay
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They sell these for $40 at TSC.

Goldenrod, Water-Block Fuel Filter 496 With Water Absorbing


Goldenrod, Water-Block Fuel Filter 496 With Water Absorbing - 0189529 | Tractor Supply Company

These are the filters that hold approx 1 cup of water before they 'slow down' the flow of fuel.

"Removes water from gasoline and diesel fuel. 15 micron filtration, 5 GPM gravity flow with 24 in head. Water-absorbing polymers trap water and restrict fuel flow which is your signal to replace the element. 9 1/2 in high by 4 in diameter."

Plus side is that the replacement element is $15

Goldenrod, Water-Block Filter 496 Water Absorbing - 3958309 | Tractor Supply Company

Thats a lot of money for 1 cup of water.
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I have sold a lot of immersion heaters to guys using them to rmeove water from WMO and WVO. A lot safer than a truker fryer since the flame is more contained and a lot less likely to catch fire if you overfill.

A guy on Youtube has a series of videos doing it.

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="YouTube - M67 Immersion Heater for removing water from WVO Part 5" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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