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Old 11-25-2011, 19:47   #1 (permalink)
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Default Kerosene for MEP-003A

I started playing around with this genset I bought from Ft Meade a few weeks ago and it looks like there was straight kerosene in the fuel pumps when I popped off the bottoms to check the fuel screens. It also looks like it was in the fuel tank as well.

Fuel lines to the injector pump were loosely connected so I'm wondering if they ran the kerosene in the pumps and filters to keep them from gumming up? Surely you can't run this genesets on straight kerosene can you? I didn't think kerosene had any lubrication properties to run in a diesel engine? Cripes I hope the motor isn't toast on this rascal.
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That's ok; isn't straight kerosene used to cut #2 diesel in the winter? Could it be something else in the tank? Sure smelled and looked like straight kerosene to me. I guess its better than gas or water!
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It may be jet fuel. Most of the flavors of JP fuel are basically kerosene with some additional additives.

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It may be jet fuel. Most of the flavors of JP fuel are basically kerosene with some additional additives.

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I was reading about JP8 which the US military switched to for tanks, gensets, and aircraft back in 96. I guess it was that stuff in there; could have fooled me since it isn't everyday I'm fueling my A1 Abrams or my YF-23 vectored fighter. The only diesel I've owned in 45 years is my Kubota tractor.
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i know here in the north east we mix kerosene in the diesel fuel to keep it from jelling in the winter cold i get my fuel from the farm next door and we mix it 50/50 diesel fuel and kerosene has never hurt any of the john deere tractors we also use power service additive in the mix as well you wont be happy if you go to use your gen set in the middle of the night when its 15 below zero and find all of the fuel filters jelled up thats a real mess and not fun in the cold. i would not run straight kerosene in any diesel as was stated not much lubrication in kerosene
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The 002a I picked up from Portsmouth also had what smelled like kerosene in the primary fuel filter (and no spring in the oil filter). The missing spring in the oil filter seems to be the latest fad and Delks wants $35 for it according to a friend who had the same experience on one of those depot rebuilds that went for big bucks at Meade a couple weeks ago.
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I'm willing to bet it was JP8 or some variant in the tank and pumps. Mine one had a clear fuel in it as well when I got it, although I can say I didn't take the time to smell it. But I can tell you this much, I dumped the probably 1 1/2 quarts total of it on some weeds I had beside the garage and they were literally blackened and dying/dead by the end of the day about 6 hours later, and didn't re-grow until the following spring almost a full year later. So it definitely was NOT diesel and/or Kerosene.
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That stuff seems to evaporate and leave a gum residue when left around for a while. Recommend a good flush with #2 diesel. The aux pumps on my 016B's were both gummed up. One freed itself up the other needed disassembly and solvent flush to make it work.

Most diesels will run on K1 and the JP8 is probably close. Reduced power though because heating value is less than #2D. The lubricity is less than #2D so an additive may help.
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i know here in the north east we mix kerosene in the diesel fuel to keep it from jelling in the winter cold i get my fuel from the farm next door and we mix it 50/50 diesel fuel and kerosene has never hurt any of the john deere tractors we also use power service additive in the mix as well you wont be happy if you go to use your gen set in the middle of the night when its 15 below zero and find all of the fuel filters jelled up thats a real mess and not fun in the cold. i would not run straight kerosene in any diesel as was stated not much lubrication in kerosene
That's what I thought and was a bit confused when I pulled the filters out today. **** even my wife said, "hey ya know that smells like kerosene." I'm in the NE as well; if you buy the diesel today would it already be cut for winter. Once I get this rascal up and running (fingers crossed) I was going to fill a 500 gallon ast tank with winter mix.

Thanks for the clarification; I'm quite the newbie with these gensets but learning fast from this site.
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