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Private
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Reno Nevada
Posts: 24
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WWII Internationals
I am interested in learning more about the International CCKW trucks but I don't know where to start. What were the truck designations for International, what sizes were most common, and what was their popularity? I have seen a few come up for sale and would like to build one but I would also like to know what I am getting into before I take that plunge. If anyone has some information or literature on them I would like to read it so I could be more informed about these trucks. Thanks
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4 Star General
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: camp wood, tx
Posts: 1,356
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The Internationals were not called CCKW, that is a General Motors model code. The WWII tactical Intl's came in 1/2 ton 4x4 (M-1-4), 1 ton 4x4 (M-2-4), 1 1/2 ton 4x4 (M-3-4), and 2 1/2 ton 6x6 (M-5-6). I think the M-1-4's and the M-5-6's are the most common. They are found on the west coast mostly. They are very heavily built of all International components. Parts can be a huge challenge to find. They come up for sale occasionally in the Military Vehicles and Supply Line magazines. Rough ones are out there waiting for you to save them . . .
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4 Star General
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: landing , new jersey
Posts: 1,839
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You just got a good start from NDT, Now google it, Thats where U will find alot of the info U need, This site is much more of the M series... collector, restorer, modifier,... The MVPA is where U want to find like minded collectors and get into it, The best way to learn is to buy one, thats what I did with my first m35 then my 352cckw, figured there is really only one way to learn... buy it and drive it and fix it, U can read all u want , but untill U take the plunge its all foreplay. But really U need to know more about ww2 trucks than U do now, U do know they are double clutchers I am sure, and are not highway drivers by any stretch, they are alot of work, and it is all good, but be ready is all I am saying, There is so much to know about these trucks it will take awhile, there is so much history, who used them what service, what countries, They were very very robust vehicles for there time for sure, just reading one thing will never do it. Do U have any military vehicle experience? These are tactical vehicles, All the best good luck, they are for sale right now in the classifieds in the MV Mag...check em out...
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Colonel
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Gordon, PA
Posts: 233
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IHs went to Russia mainly. Finding then in the USA is rare and I while I have seen a few go by, they have not garnered much interest.
Historically, they played a tiny role in the US Military. Russia and Australia is were most of them seem to be... IIRC there are at least 50 running IHs in Australia.
Check in the 2.5 tons and up forum on G503.com is Military Vehicles, The WWII Military Jeep, Parts, Olive Drab and All Related Things..
You didn't say what you wanted one for but if your interest is in US Army then IH is not a real good starting point.
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Colonel
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lake Fork,Idaho
Posts: 312
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Hood hinged down the middle with 24 louvers per side,Hendrickson Walking beam rear suspension,Better off road capabilities than the "other" 2-1/2 ton trucks of the time,not many around and no website for support,parts very hard to obtain and because of that, not real popular.
MV no-man's land but hey we need a challenge right?!
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Sergeant
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Denmark Wisconsin USA
Posts: 67
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WWII IHC Trucks
Actually, the US Navy and USMC had most of the 2 1/2 ton IHC trucks. The US ARMY got the GMC CCKW's and the lend lease trucks that went to Russia and Australia were mainly Studebakers.
The IHC trucks were well liked because they were a bit heavier built than the GMC and Studebaker cousins.
There is almost nothing common between them except a few electrical parts.
There are two cab configurations on the 2 1/2 ton IHC M-5-6. Earlier closed cab and later open cab types. I'm a fan of the open cab trucks.
There are a few restored examples. The French contingent on the MVPA Coast to Coast convoy last summer imported and drove an M-2-4 IHC across the US. They were in front of us in the convoy for two weeks. They had some fuel supply issues but made the whole trip.
Neat trucks. Restoration is not for the faint hearted. Parts are hard to come by. But I think worth the effort.
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Colonel
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atascadero CA
Posts: 204
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We have 2 IHCs at the museum I work for. I know of one for sale right now and a few more that friends own. Here is an IHC forum IHC Military Vehicles - Binder Planet Forums
Owner of 1941 Dodge WCs
Current owner of 1 WC 9, 1 WC 12,
New piece 1945 M29c Weasel for sale
Former owner of 1 Wc 1, 1 WC 8, 1 WC 9, 1 WC 18
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Sergeant Major
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: action,tn
Posts: 109
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i got a 1943 IHC m426 5 ton tractor or semi. they made 15 thousand of them. i found a fuel tanker and the 8 ton trailer to pull. so i like the ihc but parts can be a problem. but the gmc cckw will cost a lot of money also to restore. so if you can find one all ready restored , and at a good price buy one. well any of this hobbie is all about money any way., no mon no fun, i dont have no mon either. i got about 15 hundred in my 5 ton but a lot of work. also about 25 hundred in a halftrack , so if you can do your own work it will pay off.
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2 Star General
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: CT W. R.
Posts: 760
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This thread needs a pic!
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Colonel
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Gordon, PA
Posts: 233
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"Not to be confused with the M-5H-6 trucks, exclusively fabricated for and used by the USN and USMC, some 3,500 M-5-6 trucks were produced by International Harvester on a Quartermaster Corps foreign aid order from 1941 on, the main recipient being the Soviet Union.
Though the majority was of the 6x4 type with 3,000 pieces, the vehicle shown here is one out of 500 M-5-6 produced."
So without knowing the exact IH model, its could go either way.
If its an M-5-6 then having one of only 3,500 produced is a definite negative. I don't know what the production of the M-5H-6 was... but I'm sure google does,.
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