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Old 12-16-2009, 05:53   #1 (permalink)
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Interested in knowing what the go is did anyone ever make or did these things have a indicators on them? And was there ever one of these made with a Diesel engine? I'm wanting to drop a diesel in the truck as it cheapens the rego and the indicators I'm not to sure on as the Road board that does our registration may ask me to put them on it. If you can help me out that would be greatly appreciated.

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silly question, what is a ...go, and what indicators are U meaning, like unit identification? And they were gassers for sure. I say that knowing the military may very well have tested diesels in some, and maybe some lend lease may very well of had a diesel in em, but to MY knowledge they were all gassers...
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a ...go is an expression. As for indicators i'm talking about turning signals. Left and right.

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Welcome to Steel Soldiers.

CCKWs have been powered by 228, 248, 256, 270 and 302 CID gassers in the U.S. military. This doesn't mean that other countries haven't put diesels in them - I would wager that many gassers have been replaced by diesels over the years. There were a lot of CCKWs produced.
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They have No go's , and only one tail light, sure u can wire em up for directionals and put another red rear light where the black out one is, that is the most popular thing to do , I kept my 352 all original for the years i drove her, and I LOVED her and still do, Thank You for the explaination, I appreciate that, I will use that term now because I think its cool, hope u do not mind. I had a sign made i hung on the tail gate when traveling, it said, " ANTIQUE VEHICLE ...first line...ONLY ONE TAIL LIGHT...second line...WATCH FOR HAND SIGNALS...third line, I thought it was polite to let those who do not understand such things a chance to be careful...as an antique registered vehicle it was allowed to stay original.in NJ and all states I belive but am guessing, But that is the states...hope this helps...the cckw's had 270's gmc motors very popular and easy to work on and get parts for, NAPA here has complete rebuild kits for the engines, I had a head gasket blow and the water poured out the exhast but it still ran fine, great motors...Many repower anything, it all depends on your ability or wallet, it is a great truck but the rest of the drive train and brakes are not ready for all that extra speed and power. She is built to handle what shes got, hope this helped, i spent about 35000 miles in her, but went to bigger M series trucks, That is one sweet truck U have...all the best..Randy
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Vintage Wiring of Maine makes full CCKW harnesses and for an extra $150 they add in wires for dual tail light... they could easily add in wires for directionals.

But a new harness is over $900.. would be more with the extra wires.

Look at the European CCKWs they all seem to have turn signals.
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ok thanks guys gives me something to work on in the new year now. I'm in the process of getting a new tray made to the same spec. My brothers are boiler makers by trade which will help me. Found that there is one diesel and looking at dropping one in if i can get one.

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Just another one of those annoying question whats the max tonnage that one of these babies can pull? US tons?

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Look up Mil Spec restorations in the Military Vehicle mag, and ask for Bob Rubino, He is the owner, and i am sure there are other expertse out there, I feel Bob is the man who can answer Every question U will ever have on these trucks, and it will be correct, no guessing, it is worth looking Him up, He buys over by u also at times, and brings em back to the U.S. Like i mentioned above, these are not the most heavy duty trucks in the world, with a diesel u will be able to do more than the rest of the truck will ever do, But i can see the worthyness of it, and why not, it sure would be cool, guys have stuck diesels in so many trucks Bob will know others who have also, all the best...Oh ...my "guess " in tow tonnage is 5 tons, that is a guess on my part, I do not think the cckw's are rated like M series trucks, i do not belive they double load on dry road, and there fore most vehicles can tow as a rule of thumb from the old school 2 times what they can carry... as a safe rule that is, of course they can pull more......randy
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The CCKW is rated by the manufacturer for 5,000.

Now there is a catch. The Specifications of the CCKW are for OFF ROAD/Cross Country. The War Dept in 1944 increased the allowable payload on HARD SURFACED road to a max payload is 10,000.

You will also need to increase tire pressure 1 PSI for each 1,000lbs over 5,000.

I have posted the info on my CCKW web site:

tm9-801.com • View topic - A CCKW can hold 10,000... you knew that, right?

This overload rating also applies to M35s. Off Road/Cross Country the max payload is 5,000, but on hard surfaced roads 10,000 payload.

Depending on the condition of your truck you may not want to attempt 10,000. But I have seen it.. a 353 loaded to 10,000 at Army Cars USA in WI. Its scary looking, drives like crap, but it will hold it quite well.

As far as 'expert' CCKW owners beware... I have spent the last 4 years correcting them.... make sure that every bit of advice is documented, not an old wives tale, or simply made up.
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