my 1st m1008- started, now no start. ALso rust question - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite

HikerLT · 09-14-2008, 21:03

OK, major Newbie here....and NOT a majot motorhead, so forgive my dumb questions.

Just had my 1st M1008 delivered from my GovLiquidations auction win. Overall I am happy - looks like new batteries, looks like new exhaust, new Vinyl cover on Bask...

Here is my major problem now:

WON"T START:

1) The Hauler said it started fine when he picked it up, and he was able to drive it onto the ramp truck. It has a full fuel tank ( found that out when I tried to dump 5 gallons of diesel and it only could fit 4 !)

2) Now it will NOT start. The wait light comes on, and after a while goes out and the engine turns over...see "smoke" coming from the exhaust, so must be getting fuel to the cylinders...but no iginition, nothing.

3) We cracked open the bleed plug on top of the fuel pump and fuel came squirting out, this was with it not running or turning over, so to me indicates the fuel is under pressure.

Ive searched all of the "won't start" posts here, and am a bit confused as to the most likely things that I should look for first.

I don't have a "test light" (not sure what that is) but do have a DVM Digital Volt Meter and a degree in EE, so I understand the electrical stuff pretty well.

Any suggestions as to the things I should check ?
I did just place an order for new glow plugs , the 070 kind referred to in one of the other no start threads.

Should I look for a voltage at the glow plugs that goes to zero as the plugs heat up when trying to start ?.

what else...? Could the vibration of the ride shook something loose ?

Any help appreciated......

KNow any good reliable "Mobile" Diesel Mechanics in Central Mass ?
(grin).

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RUST QUESTION:

The back lower corner passenger side is rusted out. My B'inLaw says you can purchase these body sections..he says just cut it out and weld it in.....any ideas where these body part sections can be purchased ?. One place I found is :
http://www.howellautomotive.com/inde...539&Page=2

where they advertise a right side full door shell.....but I don't need the whole thing....and I am not quite sure is this is the DOOR, or the section of the body that the door fits into when closed.....

Thanks,
LT

pc3nmcb · 09-14-2008, 21:15

If you have fuel at the injectors I would check the glow plugs, There sticky's on here to help you step by step. I myself am pretty new at this also. I'm sure someone with more experience will help. Good luck

hobie237 · 09-14-2008, 21:35

Can you take a photo of which body parts you need replaced? They're all available cheaply through a variety of sources, I think my buddy pretty much built half his '67 Chevy out of the JC Whitney catalog.

Glow plugs would be my bet on the no start issue, as you have fuel.

papercu · 09-14-2008, 21:48

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just cut it out and weld it in...

Do a little more reading on the CARC paint before cuting and welding. Door shell means just the metal door. test light is just a handheld tester (looks like a screwdriver) with a metal probe on one end 12 or 24v lamp in the handle and a grounding clamp on the other end, should be less than 5 bucks. Wayne

mangus580 · 09-14-2008, 22:16

Its the glow plugs... guarantee it. Either the controller isnt turning them on, the solenoid is bad, or the glow plugs are bad.

HikerLT · 09-14-2008, 23:15

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Originally Posted by mangus580

Its the glow plugs... guarantee it. Either the controller isnt turning them on, the solenoid is bad, or the glow plugs are bad.

when you say "solenoid".....do you mean the glow plug relay ? Where is it located, and most importatnt, where can I obtain replacement ?

mangus580 · 09-14-2008, 23:42

on the firewall just to the left of the master cylinder. You should hear it 'clunk' when you turn the key on... and clunk again about 10 seconds later.

ARMYMAN30YearsPlus · 09-15-2008, 01:26

If you really want to start it a one to two second spray of ether in the intake and then go immediately and start without waiting for glow plugs. It will make a little bark and the fire right up.

maritimer · 09-15-2008, 02:41

no offence but there is a reason why theres a big sticker that says "do not use starting aids"
check the glow plugs and relay on the fire wall if that doesnt work then look at the controller card under the dash*black box about the size of a smoke pack* look in the CUCV troubleshooting section for the writeup on manual glow plug conversion for pointers if non of that works you have a fuel or air issue

ARMYMAN30YearsPlus · 09-15-2008, 03:21

I know the main reason is that if starting aids are used the engine must be cranked immediately not allowing the glow plugs to cycle. The glow plugs are a weak link in my mind in fact in my 6.5 TD Suburban the #8 one is almost impossible to change without removing the exhaust. Gotta love the downsized versions of trucks that used to let you work on them easily.