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07-30-2010, 05:37
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Sergeant Major
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lake Villa, IL
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It is time... Enter the age of the Cummins
The 6.2 is dying in my M1008 and I finally got my hands on a 12-valve 6BT Cummins. As soon as I find a NV4500 for a reasonable price, I am going to start on this project. I'll update this post as much as possible with pics and tips from the install.
For a starting point, I got a 1998 P-pumped 12 valve 6BT Cummins Turbo-Diesel from a Dodge 1-ton. It's already been modded. Has oversized delivery valves, 70+ injectors, 4000rpm governor springs, ATS exhaust and intake manifolds, and the killer dowel pin fix. It currently has a Banks Quick-Turbo upgrade, but I'm in the process of obtaining an ATS Aurora 3000 turbo to make it spin up faster and keep the EGTs down.
The plan is to back this engine up with a 5-speed (or 6-speed if the price is right) manual transmission (NV4500 or NV5600) into a NP205 transfer case. Like I said, as soon as I find a used one for a reasonable price, I'll get this ball rolling and start the build and documentation. Wish me luck!
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07-30-2010, 10:13
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2 Star General
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brookshire, TX
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Do you have just the motor or the complete vehicle to work with?
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1986 CUCV M1009
1986 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 4x4 with a 6.2/TH400
1984 Toyota FJ60 Land Cruiser
2007 XR650L
1998 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
MEP-002 Gen Set
M101A2
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07-30-2010, 10:44
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4 Star General
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: lansing michigan
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how much lift do you have? what crossmember are you going to use? what t-case are you planing on?
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1968 m35a2 w/w whistler beadlock wheels & 395's
1972 m35a2 w/w & Atlas knuckle boom < Crane truck
1968 m35a2 to be bobbed w/1600's
1957 m46 "ugly"
1959 M37 aka- Frank (frankenstin)
1987 cucv1028 w/'97 INTERCOOLED 5.9 cummins & nv4500 3.73, 6in lift, 37in hmmwv wheels & tires
1984 cucv 1009 4in lift & 33's < Dads
1984 cucv1008, undesided on what to do with.
M105 trailer
M105 w/cover
MEP-016
MEP-017A on an unknowen military trailer
HALE P250
GP Medium Tent
Unknowen generator 1cyl wisconson 2.5kw
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07-30-2010, 10:46
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Corporal
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Caledonia/On
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Is it going to fit?? I imagine you will have to upgrade the cooling capacity.
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07-30-2010, 10:50
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4 Star General
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: lansing michigan
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Originally Posted by cucvcan
Is it going to fit?? I imagine you will have to upgrade the cooling capacity.
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actualy the cooling cap on the idi 6.2 is better than the one the dodge came with. IDI engines run hotter.
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1968 m35a2 w/w whistler beadlock wheels & 395's
1972 m35a2 w/w & Atlas knuckle boom < Crane truck
1968 m35a2 to be bobbed w/1600's
1957 m46 "ugly"
1959 M37 aka- Frank (frankenstin)
1987 cucv1028 w/'97 INTERCOOLED 5.9 cummins & nv4500 3.73, 6in lift, 37in hmmwv wheels & tires
1984 cucv 1009 4in lift & 33's < Dads
1984 cucv1008, undesided on what to do with.
M105 trailer
M105 w/cover
MEP-016
MEP-017A on an unknowen military trailer
HALE P250
GP Medium Tent
Unknowen generator 1cyl wisconson 2.5kw
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07-30-2010, 13:35
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Sergeant Major
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lake Villa, IL
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Do you have just the motor or the complete vehicle to work with?
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Just the motor. Truck got totaled last winter and my buddy parted it out. Nothing I wanted off it anyways besides the motor, intercooler, and turbo plumbing.
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07-30-2010, 13:37
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Sergeant Major
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lake Villa, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ODdave
how much lift do you have? what crossmember are you going to use? what t-case are you planing on?
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4" lift. Avalanche Engineering crossmember/mount. I'll be using a NP205 transfer case from a 89-91 Dodge Ram to get the front driveshaft on the correct side of the vehicle.
http://www.avalancheengineering.com/new_products.html
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07-30-2010, 13:42
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2 Star General
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brookshire, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burbn10
Just the motor. Truck got totaled last winter and my buddy parted it out. Nothing I wanted off it anyways besides the motor, intercooler, and turbo plumbing.
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I'm not as hot as I should be on Cummins motor swaps. With the older 12 valve motors do they have any kind of computer or stuff like that or are they pretty much mechanical just like the 6.2? I know that they were using vacuum to control the cruise control as my brothers busted a hose and we had to repair it. I'd like to do this one day to my Suburban!
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1986 CUCV M1009
1986 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 4x4 with a 6.2/TH400
1984 Toyota FJ60 Land Cruiser
2007 XR650L
1998 Volkswagen Jetta TDI
MEP-002 Gen Set
M101A2
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07-30-2010, 13:48
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General
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brighton,MI
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Sounds like a nice upgrade!, I'm jealous, how much did you pay for the motor
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07-30-2010, 15:22
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Sergeant Major
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Lake Villa, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by niferous
I'm not as hot as I should be on Cummins motor swaps. With the older 12 valve motors do they have any kind of computer or stuff like that or are they pretty much mechanical just like the 6.2? I know that they were using vacuum to control the cruise control as my brothers busted a hose and we had to repair it. I'd like to do this one day to my Suburban!
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The 12v Cummins is all mechanical like the 6.2. It weighs 1200lbs roughly and the stock engine can take a ton of power without failure. Mine had a computer hooked to it, but that was to control the electronically controlled 47RE transmission. I've fired the engine up sitting on the cradle before by just giving it a fuel source and hooking the battery to the starter and fuel shutoff solenoid. This is the only medium-duty application diesel put into a light-duty chassis.
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