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Old 02-27-2005, 14:40   #41 (permalink)
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Wow, that is one HOT ROD DEUCE if there ever was one.
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<FONT]That truck looks great MM. I am curious as to where the rims came from. I want to go to single tires on the back of my deuce and I was told that the centers from my rims would have to be cut out and used to make the new rims. This didn't sound right to me, so, I figured I would find someone who made the change and I would ask him/her.[/color]
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As you know, the deuce stock rims have the offset for the duals. If you want to run singles (and have your tires in the same track) you have at least three options:

1) Flip the rear hubs, mount stock rims in the back like the front. You will have the most narrow stance this way. I think Longhunter 7 has it set up this way with 1100R20 Michelin XLs.
2) Leave the rear hubs as is, get 2 new rims with appropriate backspacing, and only run the outer tires in the back. I did this with my M52A2.
3) Flip the rear hubs, get six M35A3 or other custom beadlocak rims. I did this with M35 and working on my M36 now.

You just need to determine if you want a wide or narrow stance, whether you want to run Bias or Radial tires, whether you want tubes or tubeless, whether you want split rims or beadlocks, whether you want a wider and/or taller tire (aka Super Single). You can see pics of my trucks in the Deuce Mod & 5 ton forums under "Pics of Super Singles". Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll see if I can help.
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That truck is wild! I'm curious as to the suspension arms on the rear, they didn't look homemade are they 5 ton or some other truck? The looks he must get when driving it, probably stops traffic! More pics please, some off road would be awsome!
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that's one option, but not necessary. As M1075 stated, there are three much easier routes. The max tire size for stock deuce rims is 12", as stamped right on the rim. 12.00-20's are also the max standard tire height you can run on the stock deuce, so you have no worries about finding a larger rim. Hot Rod Deuce did cut two rims and weld them together to make one wide one to fit the 16.00's, but also had to make custom springs and bogie arms. You won't need to do any of that. I suggest flipping the hub and running the wheel facing in like your inner dual is now. It brings out the best chassis geometry and puts your tires in the same track for better off road performance, but does admittedly look a little odd.



The "single" wheels are different than dual wheels, and I had a very hard time finding any. I located one set of six, but it had junk tires mounted to them in which case I would have had to pay freight, plus the wheels then swap off the junk tires and dispose of them. I passed for now. They are the best way to go, not only in looks but geometry since the backspacing is not as severe, and you get the front wheels to fit just inside of the fenders



To flip the hub, you take off the wheels, take off the hub, pound out the studs, flip the hub around, put them in the other side facing the opposite direction, put it back on. That's pretty simplified but Bjorn can give you every detail as he wrote the book on it in MVM []
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That truck is wild! I'm curious as to the suspension arms on the rear, they didn't look homemade are they 5 ton or some other truck? The looks he must get when driving it, probably stops traffic! More pics please, some off road would be awsome!
Hot Rod Deuce made them out of DOM tubing after pressing the bushings out of the deuce ones. I'd think you could use a 5 ton bogie arm and spring combo, that is if the springs are not wider than the deuce, and will fit in the locating tabs on the rockwells? Am I mistaken?
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Five ton springs are way wider than the stock M35 springs.
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Thanks for the info MM. That helps to keep me planted firmly on the ground! [^] I have to get back in the groove to work on these things as it has been 30 years since I did. :banghead:
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The "single" wheels are different than dual wheels, and I had a very hard time finding any. I located one set of six, but it had junk tires mounted to them in which case I would have had to pay freight, plus the wheels then swap off the junk tires and dispose of them. I passed for now.
MM, Where did you find your set, and how much were they?

M1075, I know you mentioned that you have a couple sets of custom beadlocks. In the event that you have sold yours by the time I get around to buying my deuce, where did you get them made?

Thanks a lot!!

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