MTK, welcome to the site. I lived in Finleyville for about 9 years until moving 2 years ago. My neighbor Dave, has a M35 if you want to see one. He is on Munntown Road in the "600 house numbers".
Steve in Elizabeth as both sizes so look him up also.
Bill
Hello Bill,
Funny, but a friend and I were discussing "Dave" just the other day.
No, I've never met the man, but I have seen his M35 in the driveway and it is part of what got me on this kick to be honest!
In Virginia you are EXEMPT from CDL requirements IF you are using for personal use only. You can NOT do anything to make $$$ (including "farm use").
I have talked with the DOT officials & state police at the weigh station. Both told me I can drive my M818 w/M872 40ft semi trailer LOADED with my stuff & I have no CDL requirements.
My bobbed deuce weighs 8k with the M105 bed and gas engine. In SD, I am the one who sets the GVW and pay accordingly with the licensing. I chose it as 10k because above that my insurance company didn't want to insure it.
in indiana if it is over 26001 gvw you have to have a cdl no matter what you do with it
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I am contemplating bobbing a 5t too on a project I am doing. I think you could not use an m105 bed and have it look as nice as on a deuce. I was thinking cutting the original bed.. maybe. There was some pics here of a bobbed 5ton someone had done.
As far as weight, In Colorado, if the truck is older than 20 years, you can call it a classic truck and not pay by weight to register. I only pay $65 per year for registration on a m816 which is 36000 lbs. You have to agree not to haul anything and only keep it for shows, ... yea what ever. As long as I am not using it as a business, I am not worried. (I don't think the cops know or care as long as it is registered. )
I was going to bob a five ton until I realized the massive scale of the work to do it.Get under one and look it over good and make sure you have help a person could get seriously hurt or worse.A deuce is another story I have done a few of them just like working on a big pick up truck.My 818 I was going to bob is instead going to get a deuce bed put on it and I think it will be a lot more useful that way.
Will a deuce bed fit on a 5ton? Would not the tires stick out? Maybe that would be altunitive to bobbing my 818- with a son to be Detroit 8v92 in it.
The frame rail width on commercial trucks is an industry-wide constant, which makes life easy on the utility body manufacturers.
Honestly, I figured these had to be the same, particularly when I've read that the cab parts are largely interchangable. Wheel track dimensions on both are almost certainly the same, since both trucks are 96" wide.
Given all that, I'm operating under the assumptions that the frame rail widths are the same and that the 5-ton frame is either thicker, taller, or both, to give it the larger load-carrying ability.
I should also mention that part of these assumptions come from a photograph I came across of a bobbed 5-ton with a M105 bed on it. Now, I'll fully admit that I can't say for certain that it was a 5-ton in the pic (I'm hardly the expert on that front) but the photo was offered up as a pic of a bobbed 5-ton and no one called "BS" on it and said otherwise.
With all that said, I saw the Bad News Bears and know what "ass-u-me" means so feel free to set me straight if I've got it wrong.
Most states are going to a Federally recommended "classified" license system. For private use vehicles over 26,000 or 26,001 would require a regular class B license. To pull a trailer over 10,000 or 20,000 depending on use would require a regular class A. If you use it in a business, then you would have to get a commercial class A or B license.
After 911 the federal government started making a lot of changes. At some point I think the Federal Government is expecting all the states to adopt new laws that conform to their "framework". They want any state to be able to look up your driving record regardless of which state issued it. Long story short if you don't need a regular class A or B DLS in your state you probably will soon.
Most states will let you register a truck for less than the MFR's max GVWR without much trouble. If you try to register it for more they want to make sure it is safe to carry the extra weight.
Having said that I personally like the 5-ton idea although the hood is longer and it might look out of proportion with a small M105 bed.
I like 5 tons MUCH better......but.....the front weighs a LOT more & will sink in the mud (as I recently found out.....30 seconds to get stuck, 10 hours to get unstuck).
I am not laughing at you, rather I am laughing with you
Hey the power difference after a BOB and placing bigger tires, really what are you going to see in terms of speed, etc. Just interested.
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For those of you that have registered your bobbed deuces, what are you stating for the GVW? Are you even mentioning that an axle has been removed? Seems that might raise some flags at the DMV, like is it still safe to drive?
Now, I'll fully admit that I can't say for certain that it was a 5-ton in the pic (I'm hardly the expert on that front) but the photo was offered up as a pic of a bobbed 5-ton and no one called "BS" on it and said otherwise.
