Difference between M928A2 and a M35A3? - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite

dcwilkie · 07-27-2009, 14:57

Just browsing around and found what I thought was an M35A3, but is actually called an M928A2.
The M928A2 looks longer and is 5 ton. Is that all there is to it

drgreg · 07-27-2009, 15:20

The M-939 Series 5-ton, 6x6 truck design was created by AM General Corp. who also built the M939 and M939A1 trucks. The M939A2 trucks, delivered starting in 1989, were produced by Bowen-McLaughlin-York.
The major improvements of the M939 Series vehicles over the M809 Series vehicles are as follows:

Allison automatic transmission
Improved power steering system
Complete air brake system
Improved cooling system
Improved electrical system
Cab for three crew members
Tilt hood
Hydraulically powered front winch
STE/ICE engine diagnostic system

M813A1 · 07-27-2009, 16:46

The bad things is the government is having more problems with those electric truck then they had with the older M809 , M35 M39 series of trucks which were simpler and more reliable !! A funny thing happened at the Edmond Ok. 4th of July Parade staging area , I was talking with a active duty Colonel and he told me he would rather have the our older trucks, then having the newer problematic FMTV's built by Stewart Stevenson trucks !! I guess it is technology at it best !! What ever happened to simpler is better ??

BFR · 07-27-2009, 17:36

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Originally Posted by M813A1

The bad things is the government is having more problems with those electric truck then they had with the older M809 , M35 M39 series of trucks which were simpler and more reliable !! A funny thing happened at the Edmond Ok. 4th of July Parade staging area , I was talking with a active duty Colonel and he told me he would rather have the our older trucks, then having the newer problematic FMTV's built by Stewart Stevenson trucks !! I guess it is technology at it best !! What ever happened to simpler is better ??

someone in washington(years ago) decided the epa should have authority over the department of defense.

BKubu · 07-27-2009, 18:39

There really is almost nothing in common between the M44A3 and the M939A2 series. They are almost completely different. Sure, there are commonalities...reflectors, composite lights, head lights, side marker lights, doors...and probably a few more. Name something else and it is different. I am not sure why you chose to compare these otherwise incomparable trucks. Let me start the list...

*different motor
*different chassis
*different transmission (although both are Allison automatics)
*different CTIS
*different axles
*different braking systems
*different seats
*different cab tops (whether soft top or hard top)
*different sheet metal (except for doors as mentioned above)
*the list goes on and on.

dcwilkie · 07-27-2009, 19:37

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Originally Posted by BKubu

There really is almost nothing in common between the M44A3 and the M939A2 series. They are almost completely different. Sure, there are commonalities...reflectors, composite lights, head lights, side marker lights, doors...and probably a few more. Name something else and it is different. I am not sure why you chose to compare these otherwise incomparable trucks. Let me start the list...

*different motor
*different chassis
*different transmission (although both are Allison automatics)
*different CTIS
*different axles
*different braking systems
*different seats
*different cab tops (whether soft top or hard top)
*different sheet metal (except for doors as mentioned above)
*the list goes on and on.

Being still new to this game, the M35A3 (not the A2) and this M928A2 look alot alike to me. They both have wheels n stuff and make alot of noise.

All I really wanted to know was about the wheelbase length. Is the M928A2 longer than the M35A3

I'm not comparing them at all- not trying to find out which one is better. Guess I'll just get on Bing and find out... shoulda' done that in the 1st place.

halftrack · 07-27-2009, 21:23

I guess they are similiar in the fact they are both green. Welcome to the hobby.

Wolf.Dose · 07-27-2009, 22:02

The M35 A3 is a M35A2 with a new instument cluster comprising a tachogarph instead the standard speedometer and tachometer and some minor other modifications. (The history on these trucks can bee seen on trucks beeing rebuilt to the latest standard here in Europe. You will see any step of modification on them.) This is for these vehicles are related to the Driving time limitations in Europe, which have to be recorded by a built in self writing device.(Not like in the states by a book of the driver were he lists it driving time and working time and so forth.)
The M9xx series has very little in common with the M35/44 series of trucks. The first are of a 1990's design, the later are based on a 1950's design (so called REO's, at least on this side of the Atlantic river).
Wolf

dcwilkie · 07-28-2009, 10:22

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Originally Posted by Wolf.Dose

The M35 A3 is a M35A2 with a new instument cluster comprising a tachogarph instead the standard speedometer and tachometer and some minor other modifications. (The history on these trucks can bee seen on trucks beeing rebuilt to the latest standard here in Europe. You will see any step of modification on them.) This is for these vehicles are related to the Driving time limitations in Europe, which have to be recorded by a built in self writing device.(Not like in the states by a book of the driver were he lists it driving time and working time and so forth.)
The M9xx series has very little in common with the M35/44 series of trucks. The first are of a 1990's design, the later are based on a 1950's design (so called REO's, at least on this side of the Atlantic river).
Wolf

See? Now, this is why I'm mixed up. On GL they call a 2.5 ton truck that has a Cummings Diesel, the in-cab tire inflation system, automatic x-mission, power steering, the latest style of front clip and the "super singles" an M35A3. So that's really an M9xx series?

drgreg · 07-28-2009, 10:34

The M35A3 did not have a Cummins engine, it uses the Cat 3116.

M35-Series Extended Service Program (ESP)

From 1994 to 1999, M35s (and other trucks of the M35/M44 series) were upgraded under the Extended Service Program (ESP). No new trucks were produced, rather existing trucks of the M35-series were completely disassembled and the parts inspected. Reusable parts were rebuilt as required. Trucks were then reassembled using a combination of new and rebuilt parts including completely new components and systems:

new Caterpillar 3116 diesel engine (meeting 1993 EPA emission standards)
new Allison 1545 automatic transmission
new cooling system, reworked axles and transfer case
new electronically controlled central tire inflation system
super single radial tires
air-assist steering
improved independent circuit air/hydraulic brake system
three-point seat belts
new ergonomically designed driver's seat
electric windshield wipers and washer
improved heater and defroster system

M35 cargo trucks remanufactured under the Extended Service Program were designated M35A3. Further production was terminated in FY1999, superseded by the FMTV: Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles. ESP was very successful. Overall, the remanufactured vehicles met 95 percent of the performance requirements at 60 percent of the cost of a new FMTV.