Georgia MV Title Problems - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite

glcaines · 09-30-2009, 16:58

I visited the Georgia Motor Vehicle Division last week to apply for titles for three MVs I just acquired from GL. I had SF97s and Bills of Sale for all three vehicles, a 1969 Kaiser Jeep M35A2, a 1968 M105A2 trailer and a 1992 M116A2 trailer. I was told that I needed to have the VIN numbers verified by law enforcement on a Form T-22B. I returned to my county ahd the Sheriff's office completed all three of the T-22Bs.

I returned to the GA MVD today and was told that I could not apply for Georgia titles for MVs with an SF97 because the VIN numbers were less than 17, the current standard for newly manufactured vehicles. I objected and requested a supervisor. The supervisor reinforced what the first person told me - no titles. This even applied to the 1992 trailer, which under GA law requires a title before a tag can be issued.

I contacted my county tag office and they told me that the GA MVD was wrong and that I can get titles for all three vehicles and that for the 1992 M116A2 trailer, they could not issue a tag for the trailer without a title since it was manufactured after 1985. Under GA regulations titles are optional for vehicles manufactured between 1963 - 1985 and mandatory for newer vehicles. This is clear from the MVD website: MVD | Is a Title Required for My Vehicle?

Has anyone else had these problems or have any ideas? I really want titles for the vehicles as it is much easier to sell them later if I ever decide to.

papercu · 09-30-2009, 17:11

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Under GA regulations titles are optional for vehicles manufactured between 1963 - 1985

It said IF you meet the requirements, do you?
I've never had a problem selling one later with just a bill of sale. Wayne

jimm1009 · 09-30-2009, 17:15

This is true but what if you needed to sell one quick for one reason or another.
You would not get any out of state buyers to bite without a title.

Food for thought but if your state says it is o.k. like that thenI say do what is right for you at this time.
My 1.7 cents worth.
Good luck & above all else, THINK O.D. Green!

jimm1009

Peepaw · 09-30-2009, 17:16

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Originally Posted by glcaines

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I returned to the GA MVD today and was told that I could not apply for Georgia titles for MVs with an SF97 because the VIN numbers were less than 17, the current standard for newly manufactured vehicles. I objected and requested a supervisor. .

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Why is you vin less than 17 digits? I have a 69 also and my vin is 17 digits long.

jimm1009 · 09-30-2009, 17:18

A deuce VIN is not really a VIN but a serial number in stead.

It should like this example; 0254-12367
This is the whole serial number but you may have one that has the registration number in the same line with a couple of spaces between.

An example of a registration number is NKO4J4.

jimm1009

terrynash · 09-30-2009, 17:32

Gary, I just titled my M109A2 in Gwinnett county today with trailer and had no problems except for the fact that I insisted the clerk call the State office to clarify since she said it couldn't be done. The phone call cleared it all up and I walked away with a title number on the receipt and title will be mailed to me. Many times the clerks think they know and you have to be very persistant that they call in to the State office. She initially claimed that title not needed for a 1973 vehicle but I persisted Hope this helps.

Terry Nash, Lilburn, GA

Peepaw · 09-30-2009, 17:44

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Originally Posted by jimm1009

A deuce VIN is not really a VIN but a serial number in stead.

It should like this example; 0254-12367
This is the whole serial number but you may have one that has the registration number in the same line with a couple of spaces between.

An example of a registration number is NKO4J4.

jimm1009

Mine taken directly off of the plate on the dash is 17 digits. That's what the cops sent out to verify mine copied down. I wasn't trying to get a title though.

glcaines · 09-30-2009, 17:48

Terry,
Towns County is telling me the same thing you stated. It was the State office that I am having problems with. I went to the State MVD office in Hapeville where you can receive the title immediately if you have the correct paperwork. I'm going to write a letter to the head of the MVD department with a copy of their own regulations and see what response I get.

I have applied for Ga titles on older civilian vehicles in the past with less than 17 digits in the VIN. The last one was only six months ago, and I never had any problems.

Shizzlemah · 10-01-2009, 15:35

17 digit VINs were not required before ~1978 or so....

What happens if you bought a 55 chevy with a shorter vin ? would they not title it, or force you to get a state-assigned 17-digit VIN?

clinto · 10-01-2009, 15:56

I wish I could help you, I've titled 3 Deuces (well, clinto g/f and myself) in Ga. all with no issues.

Same thing as you.... SF97, LEO inspection, take paperwork to DMV, wait, title arrives, voila.

Me thinks your tag office is incorrect. Mine has never mentioned the issue w/17 character vins.

Also agreed that having a title makes selling easier.