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Old 10-31-2009, 08:12   #141 (permalink)
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i just got my relase on a few trucks after waiting 60 day and 2 days later this list comes out and my are on the list as well
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:12   #142 (permalink)
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I just love reading threads like this. I suspect this will piss off some, but the primary blame in all of this is not the fault of GL. Also, I have met some very nice GL employees who go out of their way to help us on recoveries. It offends me when some on here bad moth the working person at GL who just wants a job. Sarah at Ft Meade has been very good to me and my sons and every SS who has went there. You cannot hold the Sarahs of GL responsible to what the Department Of Defense does. That is where your initial complaints lie. Now Corporate GL should refund or reimburse for destruction to an item that occurs after bidding, and I suspect all trucks with gauge clusters removed will go back on the auction block. That is my 2 cents and support for hard working people who have no dog in this fight.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:16   #143 (permalink)
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I have a radium tach in my M108. It came out of a 71 parts truck. As Patrick explained, the white seems very dull and yellowed. You have to really focus on it to see that it does, in fact, glow. Hang tight folks, lets see what comes out of it before we all shoot the messenger.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:26   #144 (permalink)
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whats the official relationship with GL and the government/military?
The official relationship is that they are a private contractor that sells stuff for the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service

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FMS or Foreign Military Sales already takes place before they go to GL is my understanding. Those countries find out what's coming out, and can buy or be given them, more or less before we see then. What we see or get access to have been picked over many times before.
That is correct: if you read the mission of DRMS it states "
Our mission is to provide the DOD's best value services and deliver great performance to our customers for the reuse, transfer, donation, sale or disposal of excess/surplus property." They use public sale "disposal" option after the others have been exhausted. All the stuff that hits GLs site has been offered to other government depts, states, or foreign countries first.
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I have a radium tach in my M108. It came out of a 71 parts truck. As Patrick explained, the white seems very dull and yellowed. You have to really focus on it to see that it does, in fact, glow. Hang tight folks, lets see what comes out of it before we all shoot the messenger.
Ok, finally we are getting somewhere!

Not everything that glows in the dark is radioactive. I had a shelter clock that glowed in the dark, but it would not glow all night, and it was definitely not radioactive. I bought it hoping that it was

If you have access to a geiger counter, could you have it checked out? Or send it to me, and I can check it for you.

In the radium dial world, there are a few things that are dangerous. One is the radium sign kits that were used in some areas. These signs had lots of radium in them, and very thick phosphor. They would glow very brightly when new, and were used to mark bulkheads, and as room numbers on board battle ships.

The dials in aircraft instruments from certain eras are often radioactive. It is enough radium to make a geiger counter go nuts, but the amount of energetic photons (xrays) that come out of an entire dash full of these instruments is a very small fraction of the photons that come out of a birthday cake candle.

(yes, I know that visible light photons are less energetic than radioactive ionizing photons, but I use the candle as a reference. Think of the difference in the number of photons coming from a BD candle vs the number coming from your headlight.)

If the instrument is kept intact, the radium is relatively harmless. If it gets broken up, the danger increases because the dust from the radioactive decomposition becomes exposed. I wouldn't recommend keeping these dials in your pants pocket, or stored under your bed, but otherwise, they are harmless.

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After reading all these responses, one thing strikes me funny.....Why does it take up to 2 months or more before an EUC clears for so many people?? None of my 50 or so in the last year has taken more than 10 days.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:35   #147 (permalink)
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on everyone's first EUC, they have to transcribe the info onto a National Agency Check form and send it to the FBI, the DOD personnel section, the State Dept, Homeland Security, etc. and they they sit back and wait for ALL those agencies to respond. In the meantime, they set up a folder for individual/company that has submitted their first EUC. Once all agencies have responded with 'no problems here', they clear the first EUC. Subsequent EUC's simply refer back to the paperwork on file in the folder. If they are busy with setting up new folders for new bidders, it may take a while (a week or two) to process those who are already 'in the system'. It's not rocket science, it's clerical procedures, and they are probably not as automated as they could be, so it takes more time.

GL is a bit more responsive on suggestions to automate a process. Look back at one I made about automating the SF-97 process. I even volunteered to write the code for them, and two months later they introduced the on-line process we use now. That replaced printing off a blank form, filling it out and either scanning/e-mail or faxing it to GL, and having them attempt to read it, transcribe it and send to DRMS for the actual SF-97 to be printed. (they did not use my code, but captured the concept reasonably well).
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About the radium, it burns the paint after some time, and even in the very dark, the glow might not be seen. However, under a microscope, occasional blue flashes can be seen even if the paint is dead. Geiger's better though. The rules in general are don't take it apart, don't scrape off the pait or make dust of it (inhalation). If one is broken, you can double ziploc bag it and throw it in the trash, handwashing, etc. There is a thread on this elsewhere.
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To those of you waiting for your trucks, especially those waiting for your 1st truck(s), I feel your pain brothers!!

There will always be deuces for sale (lets hope) via private party. but I've got to say that the last few years of these sales has been truly amazing. It reminds me of the jeep in a crate stories, that's what got me interested so many years ago, but these were real.

I hope it all works out.
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Well, after thinking and reading the reply i have decided the following.

Money:
If the truck is modified (ie won't run) then i am going to disput the charges through my credit card company. I contacted them yesterday(Chase) and they said it should not be a problem. If some of the guages are missng then I am picking it up.

Plan of Action:
Honestly, I am going to do nothing. I know that sounds stupid but what can i really do. Only thing i can think of is to ask other members to check on my truck peiodicatly(Kentucy is 350 miles away). If the sales get cancled then it's going to be a different story

What I am Thinking
Why did i wait so long to buy......should have out bid higher on that one in Redstone when there was 300.....those were the good old days...

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