My plan of action is to wait it out as well; at least for a reasonable amount of time. Seeing as it took two months for the code review/change to go from just a code review to GL being told to hold all trucks I have a feeling that the inspections will take a while.
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I just got my notice as well and my trucks have been home for over 2 weeks. GL is calling me back but I'm supposed to put all work on them on hold W.T.F.? I guess I should be used to this kind of crap as I put up with it for 20 yrs anyway.
Got a couple of pics of my trucks in between rain showers
A3, you got some nice trucks there! Did you get them in Kentucky?
OK, OK, I just read 16 pages of frustration. Sorry guys, but stop blaming GL and the people that work there. GL is in the business of making money. If they do not sell trucks there is little income (I’m aware they have your money). It’s not too difficult to see or imagine how they feel about this fiasco.
As most here know I’m not one of GL’s big supporters or cheerleaders. I see the need but the company lacks social grace among other things.
All those that wish to take legal action, who are you going to sue and why? Sorry I’m jealous in that you have enough money to take on the federal government. If in fact this is about radioactivity which is purely speculative at this point. DOD will prevail, by protecting the health and safety of the buyer and or user. DOD pulling bids and trucks is also a right they maintain and use. Most that purchase from and deal with GL are more than aware of this.
The only leg most have to stand on is the money issue. It has been kept and in return they have dolled out very little information about what its disposition may be.
Those that wish to still jump up and down and involve state and federal authorities may do so but remember that the 60 days will long be over before they respond and take action. The group that has had their EUC approved and the trucks are still held. By all means call and drive you federal representative crazy with pleas of undue hardship, financial duress, insolvency, martial problems etc.
Hey Ed, pass the pop corn. I think it went off long before it got down range.
Floyd
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(yes, I know that visible light photons are less energetic than radioactive ionizing photons, but I use the candle as a reference. Think of the difference in the number of photons coming from a BD candle vs the number coming from your headlight.)
Stumps, I don't think anyone is going to call you out on this. What are you? Some kind of a mad scientist / tree farmer? With your own gieger counter no less.
Stumps, I don't think anyone is going to call you out on this. What are you? Some kind of a mad scientist / tree farmer? With your own gieger counter no less.
I hope its not radium, I've done a fair amount of radium gauge and glow in the dark button remediation years ago. It can be a pain to cleanup on old devices, the radium creeps through watchglasse, etc. even if the device is intact. The alpa (emits alpha, beta and gamma) emission from it causes a recoil and the material creeps alongin thin amounts that you cannot see, but can detect by doing a wipe test. Sot of like rust cancer on a painted car body, a film of rust will build up in the paint around the rust cancer.
Radium also decays to radon which is an inert gas, so the solid changes to a gas and purges out of the gauge, radon has a short halflife 3.8 days and decays to radioactive polonium and bismouth which are solids and plate out around the gauge area'
Radium itself doesn't glow in the dark, rather its mixed with a phosphor that is stimulated by its radiation and the phosphor glows. The phosphors usually can take only so much stimulation, and burn out and don;t glow anymore after a few decades. However the radium is still there (1600 year half life).
I think radium gauges faded out of use in the late 50s, and was replaced by tritium gauges, and tritium is much les energetic and emits very low energy beta radiation onlyy and is much safer and easier to clean up.
Hopefully its tritium gauges and not radium. Tritium also has a short half life 12 years
Do a search on radium aircraft gauges and clean-up sites. You will find some loud mouth gets some aircraft gague buisness in trouble and they spend literally millions to clean it up. In all reality, neither gauge (tritium and radium )are life threatening, but gov;t laws on radioactive materials clean up and disposal are very stringent.
recent changes in NRC interpretation on radioactive materials licesing have gotten insane after 9/11 and technically many exemtions for radium devices are recinded, but the NRC and agreement states haven't rounded up radium watches or clocks yet.
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So it kind of comes down to- if you scrape the paint off from 500 gauges, then swallow it, you might get cancer in 50 years...maybe? (being sarcastic, kind of...)
Jim
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So it kind of comes down to- if you scrape the paint off from 500 gauges, then swallow it, you might get cancer in 50 years...maybe?
So long as you dont ingest it, you would be fine. Radium behalves like calcium in the body and goes to the bone and has a long cycle to get out of the body because of this. Radium dial painters (women who painted radium dials on aircraft gauges in WWII) often died of bone cancer and leukemia, but they literally licked the paint brush constantly with their mouth to keep a fine point for painting those gauges.
I hope its not radium, I've done a fair amount of radium gauge and glow in the dark button remediation years ago. It can be a pain to cleanup on old devices, the radium creeps through watchglasse, etc. even if the device is intact. The alpa (emits alpha, beta and gamma) emission from it causes a recoil and the material creeps alongin thin amounts that you cannot see, but can detect by doing a wipe test. Sot of like rust cancer on a painted car body, a film of rust will build up in the paint around the rust cancer.
Radium also decays to radon which is an inert gas, so the solid changes to a gas and purges out of the gauge, radon has a short halflife 3.8 days and decays to radioactive polonium and bismouth which are solids and plate out around the gauge area'
Radium itself doesn't glow in the dark, rather its mixed with a phosphor that is stimulated by its radiation and the phosphor glows. The phosphors usually can take only so much stimulation, and burn out and don;t glow anymore after a few decades. However the radium is still there (1600 year half life).
I think radium gauges faded out of use in the late 50s, and was replaced by tritium gauges, and tritium is much les energetic and emits very low energy beta radiation onlyy and is much safer and easier to clean up.
Hopefully its tritium gauges and not radium. Tritium also has a short half life 12 years
Do a search on radium aircraft gauges and clean-up sites. You will find some loud mouth gets some aircraft gague buisness in trouble and they spend literally millions to clean it up. In all reality, neither gauge (tritium and radium )are life threatening, but gov;t laws on radioactive materials clean up and disposal are very stringent.
recent changes in NRC interpretation on radioactive materials licesing have gotten insane after 9/11 and technically many exemtions for radium devices are recinded, but the NRC and agreement states haven't rounded up radium watches or clocks yet.
That's A LOT of SCIENCE for most of us to digest....
In a nutshell, let's see how this might make some sense....
Standard Deuce Driver Seat places driver's crotch approx 24"-30" from cluster of radio-active gauges = No need for vasectomy as you'll be "fixed" after your second or third rally convoy! Right?
Hmmm Was this a government conspiracy to secretly control MV Enthusiast reproduction ? ? ? .....>.....>.....>.....>.....>..
That's A LOT of SCIENCE for most of us to digest....
In a nutshell, let's see how this might make some sense....
Standard Deuce Driver Seat places driver's crotch approx 24"-30" from cluster of radio-active gauges = No need for vasectomy as you'll be "fixed" after your second or third rally convoy! Right?
Hmmm Was this a government conspiracy to secretly control MV Enthusiast reproduction ? ? ? .....>.....>.....>.....>.....>..
I worried about this carrying a handgun with night sights almost everyday for the 20 years at waist level. Everything still seems to work OK.
What are you? Some kind of a mad scientist / tree farmer? With your own gieger counter no less.
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