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10-30-2009, 20:12
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2 Star General
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Milan, NH
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Originally Posted by DeuceNewbie
i dont understand how "laundering" a truck so that it can not be traced is legal by any means.
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My state of N.H. doesn't require that I keep any record of the buyer of any vehicle I sell. I sign the back of the title, and its no longer mine. GL rules only require that if I sell a truck, I keep track of the buyer.
If I were to sell my truck, and keep track of the buyer, I'm 100% legal. If the next guy sells the truck in 3 months, he doesn't have to keep track of anything. If after a period of time I drive by someone's yard and there is my old Deuce sitting there with a For Sale sign on it, maybe I would decide to buy it back.
Legal? Yes. 100% ethical? No, but neither is holding my money for months, and not allowing me to pick up my own truck. Or coming to take back a vehicle someone already bought and put time and money into. In an example such as this, I would take legal over ethical any day.
It won't matter to me anyway, because they've dragged their feet so long, both trucks have to be sold anyway, because we are hurting for the money. I was counting on the resale of one of the trucks to help us out. But with everything thats happened, I just as soon they cancel the sale and give me all of my money back. I'll take the loss on the plane ticket and other expenses I'm out.
Jim
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1962 M35A2, LDS 427, 11.00-20 Goodyear radials, For Sale
1971(?) M35A2, NDTs, may get bobbed
1 M105A2, rough, work trailer
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10-30-2009, 20:13
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Private
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: mt washington kentucky
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I have a truck there and my dad has a truck there, I have been waiting for this truck like a little kid waiting for christmas, and just found out there might be no christmas. I am so freakin heated wright now I just want to kick someones behind, But no good that willl do. Very dissapointed.   All I ever wanted since I was a little boy was a m35 a2 deuce and half. OK rant over maybe it will work out Try to think positive
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10-30-2009, 20:17
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#63 (permalink)
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Jacksonville Ar.
Posts: 30
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Originally Posted by bassetdeuce
I had a chuckle over that one, because a while back when I complained about that here, some long standing members jumped on me for it. They were saying things like, "you should be glad they are willing to do the SF97s for $60", or "they are doing you a favor, its well worth $60", "you should cut them a check for the times they didn't charge you.." , yada yada... 
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That $60 is a fee that they get for relaying us a form (sf67) from Sammy. They don't pay a **** dime for it.... Last time I looked postage was under $.50. We be gettin' a screwin' boys.
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10-30-2009, 20:21
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#64 (permalink)
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3 Star General
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Palm Bay, FL
Posts: 904
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Originally Posted by bassetdeuce
I had a chuckle over that one, because a while back when I complained about that here, some long standing members jumped on me for it. They were saying things like, "you should be glad they are willing to do the SF97s for $60", or "they are doing you a favor, its well worth $60", "you should cut them a check for the times they didn't charge you.." , yada yada... 
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I don't know if it is the same for guys not in FL, but you paid $60 for a title not an SF97. If you buy a truck now (from GL), you will pay $78 (to GL) or so for a title thanks to the increase in rates from the State of FL. If you buy a truck from GSA and take the free SF97 down and apply for the title, the tag office will charge you the title fee...$78 at current prices in FL.
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10-30-2009, 20:23
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Denton,TX
Posts: 54
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i hear ya nhdiesel!! sry to hear about the plane ticket and other arrangements you have made...good luck
this was my first gl purchase and supposed to be my first deuce.....i def will not do business with these folks again
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10-30-2009, 20:25
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#66 (permalink)
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Banned
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Jacksonville Ar.
Posts: 30
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Originally Posted by WTFandoffrd
I have a truck there and my dad has a truck there, I have been waiting for this truck like a little kid waiting for christmas, and just found out there might be no christmas. I am so freakin heated wright now I just want to kick someones behind, But no good that willl do. Very dissapointed.   All I ever wanted since I was a little boy was a m35 a2 deuce and half. OK rant over maybe it will work out Try to think positive
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I feel for you WTFand... I won't be getting my Christmas either. I'm so **** mad that the only Nick that may visit me, maybe Old Nick and not St. Nick.
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10-30-2009, 20:26
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Colonel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Laramie WY 7220 ft.
Posts: 237
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Hey A3superdeuce, Is gl sending someone to inspect your truck? I hope this delay is just for an inspection and not a bunch of canceled sales.
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M35A2 W/W -Hardtop, Cargo cover, 1970 
M105A2
73 Jeepster Commando -Factory V8
96 Jeep Cherokee
94 Jeep Grand Cherokee W/W
63 VW Dune Buggy
00 VW Passat Turbo
82 Chevy PU 36" Swampers
03 Polaris 700 RMK 151" Track
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10-30-2009, 20:27
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#68 (permalink)
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4 Star General
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Dickson,TN
Posts: 5,029
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Originally Posted by nhdiesel
If I were to sell my truck, and keep track of the buyer, I'm 100% legal. If the next guy sells the truck in 3 months, he doesn't have to keep track of anything. If after a period of time I drive by someone's yard and there is my old Deuce sitting there with a For Sale sign on it, maybe I would decide to buy it back.
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It is my understanding that you are supposed to tell the buyer the terms of the EUC and he is supposed to abide by the terms of the EUC which would include him keeping track of who he sold it to and on down the line. I'm pretty sure there is no legal way to do this especially if it is intentional and by you post the feds now have evidnce that it is intentional  .
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10-30-2009, 20:28
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#69 (permalink)
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2 Star General
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Milan, NH
Posts: 766
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Originally Posted by falcody
That $60 is a fee that they get for relaying us a form (sf67) from Sammy. They don't pay a **** dime for it.... Last time I looked postage was under $.50. We be gettin' a screwin' boys.
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Ya think? lol. Think about this: GL gets a 10% premium from every sale. The opening bid for sales are now $150, so they will get at least $15 from every sale. I'm sure they get paid by the govt. directly for what they do as well. Now, over head. Every GL "office" I've ever been to was on base property. Is it safe to assume they don't pay rent on that office? I've also seen many GL employees at various sites. They didn't exactly graduate top in their class. ****, I'd bet many didn't graduate from anything. Once site I went to made me think I was in the middle of some gang meeting. Point is I doubt they are out a whole lot for these guy's salaries.
So, on a $2000 truck we pay $200 premium, plus $60 for an SF67 that costs them nothing. Their legwork consists of taking pictures of the items, writing a 2-line description, and listing it on the web site. Once sold, they look at the EUC to make sure its right, and forward it to B.C. Doesn't sound like a lot, considering they made $260.
Now, how about some of these lots that sell for millions? How would you feel if you had to write out an extra $200,000 for a buyer's premium?
Jim
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1962 M35A2, LDS 427, 11.00-20 Goodyear radials, For Sale
1971(?) M35A2, NDTs, may get bobbed
1 M105A2, rough, work trailer
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10-30-2009, 20:30
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#70 (permalink)
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Banned
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Jacksonville Ar.
Posts: 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nhdiesel
My state of N.H. doesn't require that I keep any record of the buyer of any vehicle I sell. I sign the back of the title, and its no longer mine. GL rules only require that if I sell a truck, I keep track of the buyer.
If I were to sell my truck, and keep track of the buyer, I'm 100% legal. If the next guy sells the truck in 3 months, he doesn't have to keep track of anything. If after a period of time I drive by someone's yard and there is my old Deuce sitting there with a For Sale sign on it, maybe I would decide to buy it back.
Legal? Yes. 100% ethical? No, but neither is holding my money for months, and not allowing me to pick up my own truck. Or coming to take back a vehicle someone already bought and put time and money into. In an example such as this, I would take legal over ethical any day.
It won't matter to me anyway, because they've dragged their feet so long, both trucks have to be sold anyway, because we are hurting for the money. I was counting on the resale of one of the trucks to help us out. But with everything thats happened, I just as soon they cancel the sale and give me all of my money back. I'll take the loss on the plane ticket and other expenses I'm out.
Jim
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You just incriminated yourself.... in writing no less.
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