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Old 12-08-2008, 00:32   #31 (permalink)
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If someone will send me a pin they know to be mil-spec I can find out the alloy. I've got a friend that works at the local scrap yard and they have a gun they can "shoot" a piece of metal with and it will tell you the alloy. I'll have to destroy the pin though so don't expect it back. I'll have to flatten it out with a hammer to get enough surface area for the gun.

AL comes in a bunch of alloys with a wide range of hardness. 1100 being almost pure AL and the softest to some of the aircraft alloys that will give steel a run for it's money.
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I have broken the pins on light weight puls by engaging or dis-engaging the winch too adruptly.
I believe the term is "shock load" which can be many times the static load on the machinery. I would say that the winch pin breaking under shock load explains 90% of the breakages referenced above. Taking up slack in the line, shifting load, quick engage/disengage. All of these will break parts if not relieved with some kind of a stress regulation mechanism.

There's a great book by Carrol Smith called "Engineer to win" mainly about the engineering of race cars, but he gets into the science and mechanics of parts failures (engine, chassis, etc), even down to the metallurgy level. A fascinating read for those interested...
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Won't do nothing..... except blow out the universal joint on the winch driveshaft

Once the pins shears..... stop the winch.


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the pin blowing out wont damage the universal. thats why the pin is there to begin with. the shaft will spin all day long under no load once the pin blows .
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I might pull off the band brake cover and check that there is no rusting going on and that the band is well released.
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if anyone knows the material they are supposed to be made from i could spin a bunch out on the lathe
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so were is the best place to get shear pins then ???????
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the pin blowing out wont damage the universal. thats why the pin is there to begin with. the shaft will spin all day long under no load once the pin blows .
That is not always correct. The purpose of the shear pin is to protect the drive; however, if you continue to try and run the winch then the sleeve can bind up and blow the universal. This is from personal experience.

What will happen is that the UJ connection can work back and when it is about to fall loose it can bind at an angle.
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if anyone knows the material they are supposed to be made from i could spin a bunch out on the lathe
I'm thinking you could probably find some rod the proper dia. and not have to turn it down. Like I said before all I need is a pin and I can find the alloy.
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I bought some NOS pins from Gene Pantano in CO 5 years ago and have not sheared one yet. I pull trees, dead corvairs and other things.

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M16ty, I can send you one if you want.

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