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01-11-2009, 09:13
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It just seems like alot of work when Saturn Surplus has them for $3.50 each instock....
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01-11-2009, 09:19
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I know Mark, you are practical to the Nth degree, but that takes all the fun out of it, IMHO.
These kind of discussions often lead to new things.
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01-11-2009, 09:21
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I get them from Gene Patano for $2 ea in lots of 10 or 20. Original GI issue.
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01-11-2009, 09:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WPNS421
Shear pins are not a problem with thee Cdn deuce, the front winchs are all hydraulic no shafts or pins. We tried ours yesterday. We have an M36C Cdn with a winch and a Hiab knuckle boom with a cable winch mounted on the Hiab. This truck was just purchased and we started it for the first time yesterday.
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As a new deuce owner I found this thread informative.
BUt Now I want a picture of this M36C Cdn
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01-11-2009, 10:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emmado22
It just seems like alot of work when Saturn Surplus has them for $3.50 each instock....
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I feel sure if I can find the temper I can cut them out of solid rod and drill two holes in it for less than a $1 a piece.
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01-11-2009, 11:02
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Just a quick safety note: PLEASE remember that doubling or tripling the line magnifies the load on the components and they should be rated accordingly. In other words, a 8,000 lb winch in a double line pull could have 16,000 lbs of force - which would require a snatch block rated for more than that as well as attachment points that exceeded that. I carried clevises and blocks rated for 20,000 lbs for the 9,000 lb winch on my Jeep.
We now return you to your regular progamming.
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01-11-2009, 17:57
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For do-it-yourselfers or the ones who can't buy them so cheap or aren't so close by....
I just did some comparative testing with my own creation of a "shear-pin cracker" (pat.pend.  ) which actually worked better than expected.......
The OEM pins (including the broken core of my very 1st winch miss-hap...) snapped at about 160 ft-lb. More or less the same torque was needed for a home made one made of brass which I had used for years of "normal winching action" but later replaced when I found it with already some deformation.
Also I have a few larger ones of unknown application...(the M35 uses 0.279" x 2.125" measured inside cotter pin holes, these are 0.329" x 2.25") so I turned one down and it also took 160+ to shear it.
For comparison another "homemade" pin of unknown alloy but at least showing some temper... only resisted 100 foot-pound!
Next step will be trying to find 2024 or 2017 alloy locally and compare different levels of temper.
At least I know now what the goal is....
G.
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01-11-2009, 18:23
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The bigger ones could be from 5 ton winch trucks??????
Wh doesnt someone call Garwood and see what THEY have to say about it??? What would they know, they only built the things.....
Garwood Feller Inc (Garwood Winch Div)
1820 Osborne Rd, Saint Marys, GA 31558-9104
Contact Phone  912) 882-4151 URL (web address):
Business Category:Mfg Construction Machinery Mfg Motor Vehicle Parts/Accessories in Saint Marys, GAIndustry (SIC):Construction Machinery and Equipment
Last edited by emmado22; 01-11-2009 at 19:51.
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01-11-2009, 22:40
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Does any one out there have the resources or know of someone that could find out what alloy the shear pins are made of. From what I understand there is a special machine something besides a rockwell machine to test softer alloys. If the alloy could be found out making replacement pins or ones that would with stand a little more, would be easy.
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01-11-2009, 23:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldgrunt
Does any one out there have the resources or know of someone that could find out what alloy the shear pins are made of. From what I understand there is a special machine something besides a rockwell machine to test softer alloys. If the alloy could be found out making replacement pins or ones that would with stand a little more, would be easy.
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The pin I tested (which is a surplus pin) was 2024. The temper is what's in question now.
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