Why EUC? - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite

NEIOWA · 10-09-2009, 22:17

Anyone ever inquired of their congresscritter WHY DOD is blowing taxpayer $ processing EUC for antique light cargo trailers and trucks and which have no combat value? This ain't armament.

nhdiesel · 10-09-2009, 22:30

The one thing I worry about is the day they decide its easier to just cut it all up into scrap than to have GL auction it off. For most of this stuff, they have to be losing money with the auction process. Think about a Deuce: Take it out of (possibly) active service, have it transported back to the states, then transport it to the facility it will be auctioned from. Pay GL their fees, pay for the people to man the facilities, and end up selling the truck for $1000.

I'm concerned that as bad as GL is, they may not be the worse of the two evils.

Jim

KsM715 · 10-09-2009, 23:53

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Originally Posted by nhdiesel

The one thing I worry about is the day they decide its easier to just cut it all up into scrap than to have GL auction it off. For most of this stuff, they have to be losing money with the auction process. Think about a Deuce: Take it out of (possibly) active service, have it transported back to the states, then transport it to the facility it will be auctioned from. Pay GL their fees, pay for the people to man the facilities, and end up selling the truck for $1000.

I'm concerned that as bad as GL is, they may not be the worse of the two evils.

Jim

Trust me, there will be just as much money wasted on scrapping them, its the Government. They will still truck them around, still have to have people do all the paper work, still man sites and so on and so on.

NEIOWA · 10-10-2009, 13:42

I'll bet you the cost to DOD of have the mil security people process an EUC in at leat $200.

For a trailer govliq sells for $250 and which is no more "dangerous" to peace than one you buy down at Home Depot.

greenjeepster · 10-10-2009, 14:57

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Originally Posted by nhdiesel

I'm concerned that as bad as GL is, they may not be the worse of the two evils.

Jim

Which is exactly why even though I have been totally screwed over by them a few times in the last 7-8 years, I just role with the punches and keep on ticking.

Can you imagine what these trucks will be selling for once they stop auctioning them off?

USAFSS-ColdWarrior · 10-10-2009, 15:00

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Originally Posted by greenjeepster

Can you imagine what these trucks will be selling for once they stop auctioning them off?

SHhhhh

Don't let our secret out! Let's enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts

greenjeepster · 10-10-2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by USAFSS-ColdWarrior

SHhhhh

Don't let our secret out! Let's enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts

Oooopps, right, ssshhhhhh.

30 years ago you could buy m38s through government action all day long for about $50.00 each. I am not old enough to remember that, but I had an uncle who had a few and that is what he payed for them. And they weren't even a Jeep in a crate deal.

stumps · 10-10-2009, 19:00

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Originally Posted by NEIOWA

I'll bet you the cost to DOD of have the mil security people process an EUC in at leat $200.

For a trailer govliq sells for $250 and which is no more "dangerous" to peace than one you buy down at Home Depot.

I'm not saying I agree with the EUC process, but there is some logic to it.

Just the other day, a couple of terrorists wearing surplus US uniforms, gained access to a military base. Once inside, they detonated a bomb.

One of the things I have noticed about our group, is there are quite a few of us that seem to be amused by how readily they are mistaken for real GI's when they are seen driving surplus army trucks, and wearing surplus army uniforms. Most of our shenanigans are harmless, but suppose that terrorists did the same thing to an evil end?

Well, they just did.

-Chuck

ABN173 · 10-10-2009, 19:37

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Originally Posted by stumps

I'm not saying I agree with the EUC process, but there is some logic to it.

Just the other day, a couple of terrorists wearing surplus US uniforms, gained access to a military base. Once inside, they detonated a bomb.

One of the things I have noticed about our group, is there are quite a few of us that seem to be amused by how readily they are mistaken for real GI's when they are seen driving surplus army trucks, and wearing surplus army uniforms. Most of our shenanigans are harmless, but suppose that terrorists did the same thing to an evil end?

Well, they just did.

-Chuck

Not that I don't believe you but I' like to read that article, do you have a link Chuck?

Also you do not have to buy uniforms or uniform items from GL or other surplus outlet most can be bought brand new online or mail order, heck from ebay even. I wonder how they made it past the gate guards without ID cards? or did they just breach the wire someplace?

Dale

stumps · 10-10-2009, 23:03

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Originally Posted by ABN173

Not that I don't believe you but I' like to read that article, do you have a link Chuck?

Also you do not have to buy uniforms or uniform items from GL or other surplus outlet most can be bought brand new online or mail order, heck from ebay even. I wonder how they made it past the gate guards without ID cards? or did they just breach the wire someplace?

Dale

It was something I heard out of the corner of my ear on the local news radio station. I got some of the details wrong. Here is a fuller accounting:

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A police intelligence report obtained by The Associated Press on Saturday had warned in July that members of the Taliban along with Jaish-e-Mohammed, a militant group based in the country’s Punjab province, were planning to attack army headquarters after disguising themselves as soldiers. The report was given to the AP by an official in the home affairs ministry in Punjab’s home department.
Officials said Saturday they had raided a house in the capital where the attackers were believed to have stayed. They found military uniforms and bomb-making equipment.
The United States has been pushing Pakistan to take strong action against insurgents using its soil as a base for attacks in Afghanistan. The army has previously been unwilling to go into Waziristan with significant force, but has likely been emboldened by its successes against the militants in the Swat Valley earlier this year and the killing of Baitullah Mehsud.
“I want to give a message to the Taliban that what we did with you in Swat, we will do the same to you there (in Waziristan), too,” said Interior Minister Rehman Malik. “We are going to come heavy on you.”
Militants regularly attack army bases across the country and bombed a checkpoint outside the army compound in Rawalpindi two years ago — one of several major bombings to hit the garrison city in recent years. But rarely have the Taliban mounted an armed assault in the city involving multiple fighters.
Saturday’s siege followed a car bombing that killed 49 on Friday in the northwestern city of Peshawar and the bombing of a U.N. aid agency Monday that killed five in Islamabad. The attacks showed the militants are capable of striking a range of targets across the country.
The man who attacked the U.N. office was also wearing a security uniform and was granted entry to the compound after asking to use the bathroom.

The point is most people assume that anyone in uniform, driving military vehicles is military. They also assume anyone in a police uniform driving a police cruiser is a cop.

It is probably in the government's best interest to know who their vehicles go to, as a military truck, and a surplus uniform speaks authority to most civilians.

-Chuck