HUMVEE Replacement - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite

JeepMan · 10-28-2008, 09:17

Our paper this AM says that the Pentagon is supposed to vote soon on the vehicle to replace the HUMVEE. It's supposed to be a lightweight vehicle that will do all and protect the occupants from mine blasts. It will be quite awhile before it's fielded.

JeepMan · 10-30-2008, 09:25

Local paper ran another article about it this morn. Says they want to start fielding it in 2010 to replace over 150,000 HUMVEES.

jwaller · 10-30-2008, 09:59

just remember how long it took the gooberment to replace the deuce and take them all out of circulation... I dont think the hmmwv's are going anywhere anytime soon.

maddawg308 · 10-30-2008, 10:01

IIRC, the M715 series, the M880 series and CUCV series were "interim" fields until a suitable replacement for the M37 and M151 were found, at least that is one opinion I have heard before in print. The HMMWV was supposed to replace most of them, except in a non-tactical role where the CUCV would continue until replaced (by the CUCV II, which never really took off except for a few bought by Uncle Sam). By 2010, the HMMWV will be near the 30-year deployment life span for a vehicle platform, and due for a change.

Also, I remember that only a handful of the replacements for the HMMWV would be mine-resistant vehicles (mainly due to the fact that mine-resistant vehicles are very expensive to produce, repair, and operate. Plus, you don't need a heavy armored truck driving around CONUS bases burning twice as much fuel as normal vehicles, just to pick up "groceries"). I believe something similar to the unarmored HMMWV will make up the bulk of the replacement force.

Tanner · 10-30-2008, 21:21

One option to extend the life of the HUMVEE for awhile -

SCTVC - Small Combat Tactical Vehicle Capsule

http://granitetacticalvehicles.com/humvee.html

http://granitetacticalvehicles.com/n...ense_news.html

I hear that it is getting some good reviews from military higher-ups; those that understand protection requirements...

"Tanner"

Westech · 10-30-2008, 21:25

and the full up armor Humvee sucks! ever try to move 13k pounds with a 6.5? its feels like driving a dump truck with a 4 cylinder engine and it about to roll over in every turn. I will be glad to get rid of them. Now on base in a soft skin? F yeah there a blast! fast and you can slide around in them. I think the humvee is been turned in to something it should not have been. too much crap on that platform.

Tanner · 10-30-2008, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westech

and the full up armor Humvee sucks! ever try to move 13k pounds with a 6.5? its feels like driving a dump truck with a 4 cylinder engine and it about to roll over in every turn. I will be glad to get rid of them. Now on base in a soft skin? F yeah there a blast! fast and you can slide around in them. I think the humvee is been turned in to something it should not have been. too much crap on that platform.

Agreed that the HUMVEE is being asked to do jobs that it was not designed to do - but isn't it better to give a warfighter some protection rather than none at all?

"Tanner"

Westech · 10-30-2008, 21:37

I never said take them away....just should have been replaced or what is being asked to do transferred to a better platform.

ARMYMAN30YearsPlus · 10-31-2008, 05:13

I have several ideas that I am waiting to see if the Army retains me other wise I am going to Stuart Stevenson, Oshkosh or Mack with them because I think it is the answer we need for mine and SAF resistance, transportablity and cost. Once I get a deal I will share it with you. Yup the UAH is a pig with all the kits on it. That is why they are only putting 6.5 TD's in them but I would rather be in one in Iraq and Afghanistan than a soft skin sorry been there and done that a few times and we should keep them till the WOT is over. I may have to up armor my fleet living so close to Baltimore

JeepMan · 10-31-2008, 10:22

They showed the prototype on the news last night. I can tell you it's not going to be a "light tacticle" vehicle. (Such as the M151A1/2 was). The front looks like an varient of the Oshkosh trucks and from the windshield back it looks like a square Hummer.
Course the actual vehicle may be different.