H1 vs. HMMWV? - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite

aximony · 02-03-2010, 02:40

From purely a performance and durability point of view, if we took a 1995 H1 and a 1995 HMMWV (any variant), would there be any difference between the two?

Now, I know that the A2 series and later the A2 ECVs got a different body and some upgrades to the suspension, frame and body.

So, would a 2005 H1 have the same "upgrades" as an A2 HMMWV?

moleary · 02-03-2010, 08:36

The differentials were slightly different between the civilian and the military version.

B3.3T · 02-03-2010, 09:08

The A2 is designed for heavier loads, much more than the H1. Lets compare an F-150 with an F-350.

Stalwart · 02-03-2010, 13:01

The first Civilian Hummers had a much heavier suspension and better hubs then the HMMWV. Mine has a 2 ton payload, I added a 3,600 lb pallet of concrete and the rear of the truck squatted about 2" making it sit level. On later H1's they lightened the suspension capability and only offered the HD suspension as an option. The up armored HMMWV is more robust yet.

Ryanhooker · 02-03-2010, 22:50

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Originally Posted by B3.3T

The A2 is designed for heavier loads, much more than the H1. Lets compare an F-150 with an F-350.

Wow, Hold up. The 150 and 350 are not even in the same family. There is nothing even close on them. Its more like a 2500 vs a 3500. or a new wrangler and a J8.

They came down the same line. There where diffrent parts used. H1 is a more refined and uses a softer ride. The Hmmwv use stiffer springs for pay load, which means pain in ass ride.

The H1 frame is not reinforced to allow for deformation in a wreck. The Hmmwv has extra plates bolted to the frame to help with payload. Which will not bend as easy in a wreck.

The H1 body is the same as the Hmmwv. But does not have the reinforcements of the hmmwv.

The diffs are higher gear in an H1. The Hmmwv is lower for off road use.

In other words

Hmmwv=Pepsi
H1= Diet pepsi

robr · 02-03-2010, 23:22

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Stalwart · 02-03-2010, 23:40

But in the case with the EARLY H1's ('92 & '93), the civilian units had heavier suspension, the same gear ratio, and better hubs than the Mil-Spec units. I have a '93 with 20k miles in the original CARC 383 green collecting dust.

papaydsailor · 02-04-2010, 00:51

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Originally Posted by Stalwart

But in the case with the EARLY H1's ('92 & '93), the civilian units had heavier suspension, the same gear ratio, and better hubs than the Mil-Spec units. I have a '93 with 20k miles in the original CARC 383 green collecting dust.

does that one has ABS or not yet on that year? all you have to do is change the lights to make it look like the mil hmmwv although it wont have the capability of deep water fording of more than 30 because its wiring design is not water proof.

Stalwart · 02-04-2010, 00:55

The wiring is fine, it needs the snorkle is all. It also has the plugs in the floor to let the water out too. WAY too early for ABS, it doesn't even have power windows or door locks.

frodobaggins · 02-04-2010, 14:18

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Originally Posted by Stalwart

I have a '93 with 20k miles in the original CARC 383 green collecting dust.

You should donate it to a good home. Mine is available.