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Sergeant
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canton, GA/Baghdad, Iraq
Posts: 52
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My 1952 M38 Project
Bought this M38 from a gentleman in Summerville who apparently got it from a bubba in AL. It has had some manner of conversion to 12 volts. All of the wiring for the lighting is chopped and looks like a mess and the battery box is gone. I had to secure the battery with a bungee haha. The engine runs like a champ and it actually drives quite well. The body is in good shape and I have ordered most of the bits and pieces including the top and rear seat frame. I still need to find wipers and assemblies etc for those as well as the side mirrors. The real trick will be to sort out the wiring.
1963 Daimler Ferret (British) Mk 2/3
1951 Daimler Ferret (Canadian) Mk 1
Humber PIG Mk 2
Studebaker Weasel
1952 M38
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4 Star General
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Dexter, MI
Posts: 4,127
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Nice job. The more we reclaim from Bubba the better.
Chuck Graham
1969 Kaiser-Jeep M35A2
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Sergeant
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canton, GA/Baghdad, Iraq
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They guy I bought it from had about 50 acres of land and had been using it for a mode of transport around his property. I can see from inside the engine compartment that the bubba had at some point painted it PURPLE. I don't even want to know.....
1963 Daimler Ferret (British) Mk 2/3
1951 Daimler Ferret (Canadian) Mk 1
Humber PIG Mk 2
Studebaker Weasel
1952 M38
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General
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ON
Posts: 470
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Bubba sure does get around it seems. Glad to hear that you saved it. Can't wait to see some pictures of it once you start fixing her up.
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Athens, Ga.
Posts: 5,768
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Considering how cheap repro wiring is for these, I'd just buy an entire new harness. I think for about $550 you can rewire the entire vehicle, with all new wiring, including the metal circuit # tags and your choice of either Douglas or Packard connectors. Best part is the vendors (there are a couple) will add in a second brake light circuit in the rear, turn signals with M-series turn signal switch and flasher connectors (so that it will look like a factory installation) and you can tell them where you want the front turn signals (a lot of people either replace the blackout lights under the headlights or they add them on the fenders).
The wiring harness on my '55 M38A1 is relatively uncut and I was going to try and re-use it but after I had to do some work on it, I realized it was old and brittle that it was just pointless to try and mess with it. I guess 54+ years will do that to wiring.
Nice Jeep!
Last edited by clinto; 08-23-2009 at 12:28..
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4 Star General
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Columbus, Georgia
Posts: 2,083
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Agreed clinto...even that old wiring that hasn't been "chopped on" can be dangerous. My M37 was sitting perfectly still not running when suddenly a cloud of smoke came from under the dash!! Good thing we were close to it.
I say if you're gonna fix her up and drive her...get the new harness or you will always wish ya did
M38A1, MB Farm Jeep, GPW
M37
M43...X 2
M211, M35A2, M109A3
M52, M54A1, M816, M818
M553 10ton GOER Wrecker
1947 Cleveland Trencher (USMC)
and other stuff
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Sergeant Major
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Hillsboro, NH
Posts: 118
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Vintage wiring of Maine is great to deal with. My harness went in under two hours of work.
1952 M38
2004 Chevy Colorado
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General
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: ON
Posts: 470
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillF
Vintage wiring of Maine is great to deal with. My harness went in under two hours of work.
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I second using Vintage Wiring of Maine. They do really awesome work, and the harnesses they make look better than NOS. They can also add in extra wiring into the harness if you want to add other accessories such as lights.
We got one for our M37 and it was super easy to install as they even include the wiring diagram.
Vintage Wiring of Maine - Wiring Harnesses for Vintage Military and Civilian Trucks and Tractors.
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Sergeant
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canton, GA/Baghdad, Iraq
Posts: 52
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Heres the thing. Will those harnesses work as a 12 volt system? I am not sure what parts have been changed out to 12 volts and whether it is better to keep it that way or to change everything back to original 24 volt configuration. Advice guys?
1963 Daimler Ferret (British) Mk 2/3
1951 Daimler Ferret (Canadian) Mk 1
Humber PIG Mk 2
Studebaker Weasel
1952 M38
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Athens, Ga.
Posts: 5,768
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The wiring won't care which voltage is being put through it, military wiring can handle either (it is already the correct gauge).
I'd do it 24V. Raise the value of the vehicle, you can use the factory TM's to troubleshoot, etc.
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