Canislupus

Since we're on the subject of the M109A3 Boxes, has anybody ever done any work on the side windows of these things? Mine appears to have some sort of wood surround around the double glass panes, and it's somewhat rotted out. Anybody replaced the wood on these? Also how do these windows come off the side of the Box? If I'm to guess you would have to take the little wire off the end of the push handle, and then go outside and lift the window WAY up then slide forward or back to remove it from the side...
Seems logical.

Any suggestions from an Old Salt? I'm just a "Greenie".

I hid it under the Tree in front of the House...
Think she'll notice with the Camo?

Washington County Sheriff recently told me during his "Visit" that it was:

"Legally Parked, and whomever complained was an IDIOT. We get a lot of those nowadays."

vinny-socom1

swing the window out and slide it foward or backwards which ever is easier. I have not replaced the wood but I have had it off, it would be very easy to cut a piece of oak and redo it.

sorry no pics I had to pull one of my windows to clean the inside of the double pain...what a pita it was.

Vinny

1970 XM818w/winch 16.00x20's- dropside bed coming soon
2009 M109RV trailer(custom camper) with tandum 16.00x20's
1970 XM818 BOBBED w/16.00x20's
1967 M105A2
1966 M332 *SOLD*
1968 M105A2*SOLD*
19?? M54A2*SOLD*
vinny-socom1@hotmail.com

vinny-socom1

Zout, how much for the flooring? I see your in GA not to far for a road trip for supplies!!

also how did you remove the thin metal sheets?

Vinny

1970 XM818w/winch 16.00x20's- dropside bed coming soon
2009 M109RV trailer(custom camper) with tandum 16.00x20's
1970 XM818 BOBBED w/16.00x20's
1967 M105A2
1966 M332 *SOLD*
1968 M105A2*SOLD*
19?? M54A2*SOLD*
vinny-socom1@hotmail.com

zout

starting left front corner back along the left wall"
it is 41 1/2 inches to the wheel well lip.
going still on the left wall to the rear:
the wheel well is 71 inches long
from the end of the wheel well to the rear angle iron is 31 1/2 inches

the width at the front and rear is 90 inches

between the wheel wells is 39 inches

the wheel wells are 25 1/2 inches in width.

I will post the cross member layout tomorrow night as I have just removed the steel rusted out pan that laid underneath all of this. On my particular unit there were carriage bolts that mounted the tongue and groove flooring - some of the bolts had been in there for years and pulled down - but this is why I only used the 4 inch grinder and wheels - easiest way - just grind off the heads below the squaare hex end of the bolt and use the punch to knock em out - the steel floor pan was in the same process - once flooring was removed - finish grinding off the bolts and knock em through to the ground - clean flush - even mounting of material to the crossmembers.

I will most likely use felt below the 19 layer plywood shown - but I will also use undercoating from underneath to seal everything once installed. Also using "silopreme" to caulk the edges and seams, this comes in gray and white.
I could do several processes here - but this will be the most likely for costs and since using the 19 layer plywood - I will be dead and buried before it rots out - but what the hey - leave something for the next person to do.
But the "chemtrails that contail HAARP" may get us all first! type that into google and see what you are faced with. As a former HaLo - no one ever looks UP.
Enough of that - I will post if you wish the crossmember configuration - but it also starts from the front on a 12 inch center to center.
What a great way to spend 4th of July weekend - having fun retrofitting my Mil truck.

Canislupus

So being a Double Pane, it's a Double Pain ITA...

Thanks Vinny

I hid it under the Tree in front of the House...
Think she'll notice with the Camo?

Washington County Sheriff recently told me during his "Visit" that it was:

"Legally Parked, and whomever complained was an IDIOT. We get a lot of those nowadays."

vinny-socom1

YES!!! if you get anything between the panes you have to pull them apart to clean it!!! Not very fun!!!

Vinny

1970 XM818w/winch 16.00x20's- dropside bed coming soon
2009 M109RV trailer(custom camper) with tandum 16.00x20's
1970 XM818 BOBBED w/16.00x20's
1967 M105A2
1966 M332 *SOLD*
1968 M105A2*SOLD*
19?? M54A2*SOLD*
vinny-socom1@hotmail.com

zout

Got all the metal floor pan out and clean edges cut . The lower part of the box at the floor is deterioated and this can be cured.
Starting from the front left corner - the cross members run 12 inch on center going back. There are also other additional support crossmembers in there so mark these off on the side walls and the wheel wells before you start to install any flooring.
Got side tracted as the 4 grandsons decided to help ole grandpa - did get the front and back flooring in and I will send pics later.
This was also a great time to get access to the top of the air tanks - everything else to check them.
get back with ya later

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zout

Got up this morning and made sure I had all my fingers still in tact after last night - good to go after applying a little burn cream to area's -safety is only for working on the truck anyhow.
Flooring in - screwed down - caulked with the silopreme "white" as this will flow into the seams great and harden - then apply whatever it takes to top it off.
Used the 1/2 in impact with a 1/4 in tip drive for the torx headed floor screws - you have to pre-drill 1/4 in holes for these and they will self tap themselves and pull the flooring down tight. These were terrific for the edges of the box - where I mentioned it had deterioated - pulled the angle iron up tight - did lay beads of silopreme on top of all the crossmembers and edges before installing this heavy 19 layer - you can see it is almost even with the wheel wells. The reason it is not even in a couple area - the wheel wells were bent - these have an 1" lip on them and I will use seperate screws to pull these up to the flooring - also countersunk.
Here are the pics

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vinny-socom1

looks good, keep the pics coming I'm enjoying the info!!!

Vinny

1970 XM818w/winch 16.00x20's- dropside bed coming soon
2009 M109RV trailer(custom camper) with tandum 16.00x20's
1970 XM818 BOBBED w/16.00x20's
1967 M105A2
1966 M332 *SOLD*
1968 M105A2*SOLD*
19?? M54A2*SOLD*
vinny-socom1@hotmail.com

SCSG-G4

The windows can be a real pain. Especially if the wood is rotted or split. Since the actual metal inner and outer pieces are pressed into the wood to grip it, it's not easy to just replace. what i wound up doing was to drill some holes all the way through and use some 1.5 or 2 inch long #8 screw head bolts, two on each side. Bottom one up about three inches from the bottom edge, second one about six inches above that, then tightened up and it's good to go.

The glass is HEAVY, so it would be very handy to have two people, one inside and one outside when working on the windows. If you don't have a helper outside, use the blackout cover about half way up to brace the window so it does not slip away from you.

Mike

M109A3 Shop Van
M35A2 Cargo Truck
S-280 Commo Shelter
MKT-85 Kitchen Trailer
M-832 Dolly Lift Set
M36A2 Cargo Truck
2nd M35A2 Cargo Truck
M105 Trailer