I was given a Teletype AN/PGC-1 TT-4A/TG with the storage box. I understand somewhat how they work but would like to at times, display it with other military material. I have an M-37 but no shelter. Was this unit used in the field in conjunction with phone and radio comunications. Also what years this unit was produced and how recently would it have been used. Korea? Viet Nam? Cold War era?
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That particular one comes with a set of legs etc., correct? I think I have one somewhere. That's would be set up in a CP or out in the field either strung into the wired communication system (i.e. field wire) or maybe used as a remote from a RATT/CRTTZ radio-teletype shelter. So as part of a CP type display you'd be good.
Teletype was in the system at least until the late 80s and even later in some cases (countries like Canada had them in reserve units right up through the mid-late 1990s) at least as used in AN/GRC-122 and AN/GRC-142 shelters in combination with AN/GRC-106 radios. I remember seeing a bunch of still-kitted AN/GRC-142 shelters up for disposal at Malmstrom AFB in the late 1990s, so someone obviously still had them in inventory.
Military radio teletype went through a few different iterations, all of which you can readily look up online if you like - with the earlier shelters being the AN/GRC-26 or AN/GRC-19 type, and the later ones being the AN/GRC-122 and AN/GRC-142 types which started life off with the old-school Kleinschmidt-type TT-76 and TT-98 teletypes, and finished up with the fairly modern AN/UGC-74 types in, I think, the "D" and later versions. The shelters had a provision to remote a teletype using WD-1/TT field wire via the front electrical panel and an interface so you could monitor the machine some distance away from the pod either for comfort's sake (say...in a tent with a Yukon stove vs. a cramped shelter), or because you were afraid of getting RDF'd and blown up by arty.
The manual was usually included in the lid of the box that TT-4 came in (pouch? behind a door? been awhile), but if not I'm pretty sure you can find it on the web. It was funny seeing that stuff in use in the late 80s and 90s because it just *looked* so...antique...even if it was still very functional...pretty much how I feel about my own M37
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Although we had a RATT Rig with the Bn TOC (when the were able to establish a net and the equipment was working) mounted in an M577 Command Post Carrier, I have never worked with the gear. I had "specialists" that sat in that box with the "classified" equipment and sweated. While I worked in the adjacent M577 as the Operations Sergeant Major (and sweated) with my RTOs, BN staff, etc.
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The PS notes may not be as detailed as the TMs, but sometimes the little things are interesting, like this shelter "air conditioning"...
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1968 M49A2C modified with 1960 M756A2 truck bed and 1975 HIAB 765A knuckleboom, exhaust brake, VIC-1 and more.
1969 Ford XM757 8x8, 5-ton Pershing 1A truck tractor...the "improved MV".
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My AN/GRC-122B shelter came with that family of mechanical TTY gear, and I was surprised to find paperwork inside that suggested that it had been mounted on a HMMWV. So, it appears that the old mechanical Kleinschmidt teletypes were still in use beyond 1986.
I swapped out my main page printer (a minor variation of yours) with a newer AN/UGC-74B because the old mechanical TTY just looked anachronistic on the back of my HMMWV, but I may go back to the original configuration sometime.
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That particular model was introduced in the waning years of WWII and was commonly used by all branches of the armed forces during the Korean war. I was an Air Force TTY operator for nearly 30 years and we had completely phased those out by the end of the Viet Nam war in favor of the more logistically supportable Kleinschmidt model 25 and 28 in either KSR or ASR configurations. My favorite was the model 28 but, by the time I retired in 1989, it was also becoming a logistical nightmare.
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I know where there are two free Kleinschmidts. They are in Myrtle Beach, SC. Very narrow window to pickup.
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There is also a commo shelter for $200. Same small window to pickup.
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"Remember,Airman, the Army wants the last say on anything you read" Cool, makes me think of "Good Morning, Vietnam!" That is one cool piece of equipment!
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NB: I remember the sound of similar units when I worked briefly in radio work in the Ohio Valley during the late 1970's.... you NEVER forget the clacking of those machines any more then an IBM Selectric typewriter....!
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