I don't claim to know everything but I can give you some advice.
My point here is that there is more than one way to skin a cat...
Pick what suits you best.
There are a few ways to go with what you want to do.. When I wired Chucks 710 I basicly made the ign switch control both the 12V supply and the power going to the transformer... This keeps the system working like a normal charging system should and turns the accessories on and off with the switch... Only down side is that the pinz doesnt have a accessory spot on the ign switch so there would have to be a toggle if you wanted to make it avaliable.
I could draw a diagram for this but I dont have a service manual anymore... If you want to get a good copy of the wiring diagram to me I can draw it out for you pretty quickly.
I would like to.... but can not build a alt kit right now... I have to many oblogations with the store but I can say there are better ways of doing less work using a Kubota mag unit on the truck than a 12 alternator, not to mention its more suited to the application and 1/3 the size with a remotely mounted regulator and much simpler bracket. You will only get 30 amps from it but its brushless and will last forever so unless you have some big arse radio system going in you would be fine...
Hello, new to this forum, could you expand on the "Kubota mag unit", or is that information posted elsewhere here? I have a 710M and am looking for more 12 v options. Thanks
Mike is talking about a magneto. It's how aircraft generate electricity to fire the plugs in a piston aircraft. Smaller lighter and more efficient than a generator or alternator.
Kubota uses a mag unit on their small (2-cyl) diesel engines (500-600 series) which prefect for installing on an application like this where you need DC power but don't need the power of a regular alternator (IE your not running a whole car).
What makes it suited to this application is it size as the OD is less than 4" in diameter and the depth of the unit less than 3.5 inches... The front pulley is adjustable to width so the 1/2 belt on the Pinz is not an issue. Also the voltage reg is a separate solid state unit which you can mount else where in the truck.
They are not listed elsewhere that I am aware of, this is another one of those things I will get to one of these days and get listed as a kit available for them... I've just got a lot of other kits to get done first...
Whoa, that sounds like are really neat idea! And the magneto will generate 12V, or does it need to be reduced somehow? It seems like it should be fairly straight forward once you got it inside the engine compartment to run the 12v to a fuse block and then feed the accessories. How many amps will a set up like this generate? Thanks.
30 amps . . . Mounting is much easier due to the size of the unit.
They work on a 4 wire system. You have 2 wires from the alternator which generate AC voltage , these are run to the inverter / regulator which has two more wires, trigger and output. trigger goes to a relay controled by the ign circuit and output goes to the battery. . . .
Its a little more redundant than the transformer route as you have 2 power systems independent from each other. If you loose your 24 you still have 12 to limp around with as compaired to the transformer where you are dependant on the 24 system.
There are a million arguments for these methods and it really just comes down to what each owner is more comfortable with in his own truck.
I will try and remember to grab some pics of the unit I am speaking of monday but like Chuck said don't wait around on me . . . i'ma busy boy right now!!!!
I appreciate the info. If, and when, you have time, I'd sure like to see pics of the unit and get more information about how to install it. I've had enough minor electrical problems on my Pinz that I really hesitate to add another converter or more stuff to drain the batteries. This idea sounds like more of a viable alternative.
Thanks again!
for all your 12v needs just keep it simple and go with a 24v to 12v converter, 27.5amp astrodyne unit runs about $135 or so, if you need more power get another converter, lots of pinz owners run multiple converters, I have 1 converter and 1 battery equalizer with a 20amp tap, as a new bonus I had a alternator rebuilt for 50.5 amps, cost me $150.00 plus another $100.00 in misc. parts for the install, now my batteries top off quickly and I have tons of reserve for a future winch or running my huge 24volt compressor.
Can provide spme pics and lists of needed parts for dong the alternator rebuild just ask.
