The weight oft quoted around here is 26,001 lbs as the start of the CDL weight requirement. Most of the bigger trucks have hydraulic brakes ASSISTED by air, not pure air brakes, which also helps keep us out of the CDL territory.
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I didn't know that weight had anything to do with it. What does CDL stand for? If I go buy a semi and trailer to haul my stuff (@32k empty) and I put my 2 20K trucks on it do I need a CDL?
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It all depends on the state you are in...... Here in NY, up until last july I think it was.... you needed some sort of 'higher' licesne to drive over 18k.... They changed that to meet the federal guidelines.
I think what it really boils down to, is you may not need a CDL for over 26k, but a 'higher grade' license, to qualify you for driving the higher weights. Some states... the only option may be the CDL
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Here in the sunshine state we don't need a CDL (Commercial Drivers License) if we are not exceeding 26,000 GVW. But the 3 axles ding us though so we need one for that. If you bobbed your Deuce then you're kewl.
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Jim, it'll depend on your state's laws. If you're not driving the vehicle in connection with a commercial enterprise (ads on the side of a race trailer make it commercial) then you're not going to be considered commercial according to federal standards. However, state standards can be more complex. I'm working with my state legislature to pass a bill that'll clarify this. Currently, Ga's laws are a bit gray on this point and what is really needed to drive a 5 ton that's not used for business purposes.
Talk to multiple sources and look at the law. Sometimes the people charged with enforcing the law or issuing the licenses don't know what the law really is and will either misapply it or make it too broad or narrow.
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I appreciate all of the responses. I will check with the local laws and other sources. Another examply I heard in my area; which is a valid point; is all of the farmers with heavy trucks on the roads.
Will let you know what I find out. Again, thanks for all of the input to a newbie like myself.
A. Weighs 26,001 pounds or more
B. Tows a trailer that weighs in excess of 10,000
C. Carries 15 or more people, excluding the driver
D. Carries placarded cargo
That's the basic requirments, though I'm sure there are loopholes for historical vehicles or vehicles that are classified by the DMV as "Implements of husbandry or agriculture" (farm trucks) or construction equipment.
Curiously, nowhere in the regulations is it mentioned that one needs a CDL for air brake vehicles (Though you need to be able to demonstrate how to use an air brake to pass the CDL test) there is also no mention of number of powered axles, or total axles for that matter.
As always, check the law before you have to defend yourself from someone with a ticket book and too much free time
In Arizona, it depends on the truck..If it is licensed as a "Historic Vehicle", i.e 25 years or older, it is automatically exempt from ALL commercial requirements. DOT here recommends you carry complete copies of the state regulations if travelling out of state, although they have stated reciprocity exists under intergovernmental regulations both state and federal.
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