Any Frisco, TX deuce 1/2 owners?

marshalltx · Nov 10, 2010

Folks,

I've got a pretty quick roadblock to my acquisition. Muni code is below:

"
Sec. 90-113. Restricted areas and times.
It shall be unlawful for any person to operate, park or stand any truck with a rated capacity in excess of two tons according to the manufacturer's classification or any bus, semi-trailer, trailer, and/or truck tractor upon any public street, highway, alley or public right-of-way between any street and alley, within any part of the city classified by the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the city as a single-family dwelling district, two-family dwelling district or multifamily dwelling district. This section shall not prevent the parking or standing of the above-described vehicles and/or trailers upon any public street, highway or alley in any such zoned area, for the purpose of expeditiously loading and unloading passengers, freight or merchandise, but not otherwise.
(Ord. No. 89-10-07, § 3, 10-17-1989)"

I saw nothing that exempts classic or historical vehicles and it goes by manufacturer's calssification, so if I bob it the rules don't change. Has anyone already blazed a trail on this one?

Thanks,

Marshall

Flyingvan911 · Nov 10, 2010

How about a local RV storage lot? That's where I keep my deuce. They may not have exempted classic/historic vehicles on purpose.

fuzzytoaster · Nov 10, 2010

This issue has been covered a few times, especally in the DFW area, but here are some quick links. Make sure to search, there's a boat load!

Need some help with city ordinance

me vs township - victory

P.S. Howdy!

USAFSS-ColdWarrior · Nov 10, 2010

The West Texas Detachment of the SS (see link below) welcomes the new guy from Frisco/DFW aboard

Find a bunk, stow your gear, and prepare to get underway :driver:

Do you plan to register your Deuce as a Texas FORMER MILITARY VEHICLE (FMV) :?:

If so, I may be able to help you with a "LOOP HOLE" in local Texas ordinances as established by STATE Legislation regarding FMV's.

USAFSS-ColdWarrior · Nov 10, 2010

USAFSS-ColdWarrior said:
The West Texas Detachment of the SS (see link below) welcomes the new guy from Frisco/DFW aboard Find a bunk, stow your gear, and prepare to get underway

Do you plan to register your Deuce as a Texas FORMER MILITARY VEHICLE (FMV)
If so, I may be able to help you with a "LOOP HOLE" in local Texas ordinances as established by STATE Legislation regarding FMV's.

Addendum....

Please refer to Post #38 in this Thread: http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/58827-need-some-help-re-city-ordinances-4.html for an explanation of what I mentioned above.

dogkiller · Nov 10, 2010

frisco

I registered mine as an antique & have driven in frisco, hauled limbs ect.
no problems with the cops, but I have yet to leave it parked in front of the house..
frisco cops in the most part are ok guys....

USAFSS-ColdWarrior · Nov 10, 2010

dogkiller said:
I registered mine as an antique & have driven in frisco, hauled limbs ect.
no problems with the cops, but I have yet to leave it parked in front of the house..
frisco cops in the most part are ok guys....

I would recommend that you MAKE GOOD FRIENDS with key LEOs in your area. Being a good neighbor and "educating" the officers goes a LONG way toward avoiding problems.

All it takes is for one "ticket-writer" to tag you truck for the waterfall of hassles to begin. As a minimum - even if you are completely innocent of wrongdoing - once a ticket is written (their mistake), YOU become responsible for court costs, dismissal fees, towing and impound charges, etc..... Therefore, a proactive approach with preventing an erroneously written ticket is to your advantage.

Get friendly with the community - parades, good will uses, rides for the neighborhood kids etc. all help minimize the chances of complaints. And complaints lead to harassment - even if it's not actually a legal offense.

Good luck!

dabtl · Nov 10, 2010

marshalltx said:
Folks,

I've got a pretty quick roadblock to my acquisition. Muni code is below:

"
Sec. 90-113. Restricted areas and times.
It shall be unlawful for any person to operate, park or stand any truck with a rated capacity in excess of two tons according to the manufacturer's classification or any bus, semi-trailer, trailer, and/or truck tractor upon any public street, highway, alley or public right-of-way between any street and alley, within any part of the city classified by the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the city as a single-family dwelling district, two-family dwelling district or multifamily dwelling district. This section shall not prevent the parking or standing of the above-described vehicles and/or trailers upon any public street, highway or alley in any such zoned area, for the purpose of expeditiously loading and unloading passengers, freight or merchandise, but not otherwise.
(Ord. No. 89-10-07, § 3, 10-17-1989)"

I saw nothing that exempts classic or historical vehicles and it goes by manufacturer's calssification, so if I bob it the rules don't change. Has anyone already blazed a trail on this one?

Thanks,

Marshall

It does not prohibit parking it in your drive way, so far as I can tell. You just cannot park it on public right of ways.

nofearnohope · Nov 10, 2010

Contact the local code enforcement officer. I ran into this with my truck. I parked it on the street til they informed me that anything rated over 1 ton couldn't be parked on a public road. I have had it in my driveway ever since and have had no other problems. It also helps that when the code enforcement leo gets out of his car and states "That thing is so cool" as he approaches the truck.

USAFSS-ColdWarrior · Nov 10, 2010

nofearnohope said:
Contact the local code enforcement officer. I ran into this with my truck. I parked it on the street til they informed me that anything rated over 1 ton couldn't be parked on a public road. I have had it in my driveway ever since and have had no other problems. It also helps that when the code enforcement leo gets out of his car and states "That thing is so cool" as he approaches the truck.

KsM715 · Nov 10, 2010

How would he get it to his driveway? It says unlawful to operate, park, ect.........

Now if you bob it, it would become a specialty vehicle and I thought there was something about "manufactures rated capacity" going out the window once you alter a vehicle. Along the same lines if you bob it then you will loose your argument if you go along the lines of using USAFSS-Coldwarriors defense.

dabtl · Nov 11, 2010

KsM715 said:
How would he get it to his driveway? It says unlawful to operate, park, ect.........

The intent is too limit commercial vehicles. State law would override an owner not being able to bring a MV to a legal parking place and not being able to leave or enter it.

This would not mean you could load a nearby home's debris on the truck in the street or such.

There are also probably other ordinances which would specifically govern this kind of use.

Cities are not always insane in passing ordinances. However, 'not always' can have exceptions.

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