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Does anyone have a idea of how much a factory military dump bed weighs off a 800 series 5 ton truck with the dual ram lift and tail gate, it is all 1 piece? thanks
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weight of a 800 series dump bed?
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I have one here and it's all one unit, fluid is in a tank incorporated into the frame, pump and all are one unit. It's a neat set up all in one. Just have to hook up the shaft to the pto. I have one and my tractor can't lift it but want's to try. So I'm guessing its pushing 3000lbs.
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I just bought a m35a2 and a complete dump box off a m817 and I have a excavating business so im gunna put the 2 together for a poor boys off road dump truck.. 
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Just trying to find a deal on a transfercase pto and all the linkages for the m35a2. not easy.
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According to TM 9-2320-260-10, operator's manual: the M817 dump weighs in at 23,755 pounds, with winch. The M818 tractor weighs 20,165 pounds, with winch.
If the 5th wheel assembly weighs around 300 pounds, (pure assumption on my part) then a bare M809 would be in the neighborhood of 19,865 pounds.
Taking the 19,854 from 23,755, the dump bed weighs around 3,890 pounds.
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http://test.steelsoldiers.com/upload/809/TM9-2320-260-10.pdf
If the 5th wheel assembly weighs around 300 pounds, (pure assumption on my part) then a bare M809 would be in the neighborhood of 19,865 pounds.
Taking the 19,854 from 23,755, the dump bed weighs around 3,890 pounds.
All that came from the TM. TMs are your freinds.
http://test.steelsoldiers.com/upload/809/TM9-2320-260-10.pdf
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I think that by using a 5t dump bed on a deuce, you are going to have to be VERY careful about over WEIGHT on the deuce frame and springs
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Don't forget you'll need a dual output PTO. Also, the PTO on the M35 is on the driver's side, the PTO on the M817 is on the passenger side. You'll have to do some fabrication.
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By the time you mount a m817 box on a m35a2 you only going to be able to haul a little over 3 ton and exceding the manufacturer GVWR. Witch is the rating the D.O.T. uses .
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The truck has a winch currently on the pto of the trans... I was thinking a transfer case pto for the dump box... ??
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this would work
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I have two 5 ton dumps for sale.
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Yes , The truck dump body is made for a passenger side pto. It would be much easier to buy the hoist kit for the duece. Its electric works well, and about 2800. Installation extra $. The springs on the five ton are much heftier than the duece. If you could buy the m211 springs, they are stronger and have the beefy helper springs which equal 2 sets of springs if you use a m35 for a dumper. Just buy a five ton dump. Thats what I did and you wont be sorry. I love that power steering! 
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And the springs? It is almost impossible to overload them!![[thumbzup]](https://www.steelsoldiers.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_thumzup.gif "Thumbs Up [thumbzup]")
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There was one in my area for sale with a worn out engine for 3K. A beater off roader. Maybe find one like that and drop in a better engine.
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JCappel, what are you asking for one with the cummins and one with the multifuel? opcorn: Are they in classifieds section on S.S.?
opcorn: Are they in classifieds section on S.S.?
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http://www.steelsoldiers.com/parts-sale/80525-7-ton-power-hoist.html, this in the Classifieds now, a complete setup to convert a deuce, instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, eather convert a deuce or get a 5t
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Parich the Multifuel is in the classifieds $6500,the m817 runs but has a knocking sound in the engine.
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$6000 for the m817