Out with old rusty, in with (unique?) new M416

Been looking to trade up out of my rusty bantam M416 type trailer and into something in good shape. Yesterday I came across something i had yet to see. A 416 with a top and surge brakes. I went ahead and bought it, now I got to get rid of family camp trailer ver 1.0 so I can figure out what I want to do with this one.

Are these unique or is it just me who has not seen one before?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1ehbcNLkBII/T6hy7cvIgfI/AAAAAAAAAeU/bg6bMS5u19U/s640/05071534.jpg

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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9Tva1YfUeGw/T6hy5-_kdwI/AAAAAAAAAeI/Mn0_cnc7c7I/s640/05071534b.jpg

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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FammT0lZ1mk/T6hzGHQMLJI/AAAAAAAAAek/cGMkz0IZv2I/s640/05071535a.jpg

It looks custom.

It looks like the surge brake from a m101a2. The top... who knows, but it serves a purpose.

uscgmatt said:

It looks like the surge brake from a m101a2. The top... who knows, but it serves a purpose.

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Its a m416a1 trailer, surge brakes are standard. Nice trailer.

Evil Dr. Porkchop said:

Its a m416a1 trailer, surge brakes are standard. Nice trailer.

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I didn't know they put surge breaks on a 1/4 ton trailer.

Derrickl112 said:

It looks custom.

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He had more than one, all identical including the top. Anyone seen the top before? According to the seller they only made 2,000 of them with surge brake and top. \

Looks like a unit fabricated top

Thanks guys!

Good find! I bet the extra hardware makes it heavy.
Looks like a purpose fabed top but it does look good.
Keeping it Military or Expo?

What does your old trailer look like?

He had more than one, all identical including the top. Anyone seen the top before? According to the seller they only made 2,000 of them with surge brake and top.

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The truth is stranger than fiction but there should be some way to verify that. Just about everything Uncle buys is done to certain specs and under contract.

harleyhouse said:

Good find! I bet the extra hardware makes it heavy.
Looks like a purpose fabed top but it does look good.
Keeping it Military or Expo?

What does your old trailer look like?

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Oldie looked like this - https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...aI/AAAAAAAAAdo/jNcG7c_xlYQ/s640/05071628c.jpg

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I say looked because it sold 6 hours after posting it on Craigs list.

I had all intents of doing another expo trailer but drilling and cutting this thing in this condition just seems wrong. I need a flat hard top in it to mount my tent. I guess I could build a compartmentalized frame to drop down inside the tub to eliminate drilling and mounting of my camping stuff (what a pain). Maybe I will sell off the top so at least that stays unmolested and use the funds to build the new top the way I want it. Got so much to decide with this one. Hopefully someone will come along soon who is familiar with this type of lid and solve the mystery...

Got any pics of how the lid works? I have heard of aluminum tops for 416's from the military but have never seen one, so I'm not sure about yours.

The 416 trailers are awesome dressed for Expo.
The old trailer looked nice too! I would have a 416 but it looked too small behind my Crewcab.

I like them with matching wheels, spring over and color matched.

I like it.

After wrasslin with how I was going to integrate the 24v lights into my 12v Toyota I gave up on using the existing wiring and McGuyvered some LEDs. I had a set of magnetic stick on Harbor Freight lights I got in a rush on my way to pick this baby up. Turns out they are similar size to the mil housing already on the trailer. Added bonus is they also had all the wire and the plug necessary to complete the install.

So I busted them apart and went to trimming. Total cost $29.99 + tax + an afternoon of removing the old wiring, internals and plug assembly.


Take them apart - https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...iI/AAAAAAAAAfg/xykIRQqX3Jc/s640/05121705a.jpg

Trim off the outer housing - https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vFr8DTS31xc/T68IIpt_EEI/AAAAAAAAAfQ/4xvWJ3l-ONg/s640/05121814.jpg

Cut some relief grooves and slide them in - https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZmYkCG6uo6I/T68ICxzfGaI/AAAAAAAAAfI/SuiMuOMSFKE/s640/05121705.jpg


Voila! - https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fxUgvVlnB28/T68INKfJIxI/AAAAAAAAAfY/4lJ6ifDze-A/s640/05121924.jpg

Looks like a hearse. The markings leads me to believe its from the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam Advisory Team 42. The topper may serve a use for what ever reason. I still think it looks like a hearse trailer.

Just something I found in the research of this... MACV Advisory Team 42 Binh Dinh

Thanks for the link Goose. I emailed him to see if he saw anything like this over there but it bounced back.

I don't think m416a1's existed yet at that time frame. The markings were probably part of the restoration, and the amber reflectors should be red as well on the sides.

Yeah I am not sure, but from what I have been able to find is about mid 60s. What does the data plate say?

That's a nice fab job. I think I've been in Texas to long. As I was opening up each pick I half expected the last pick to show the lid raised to reveal the BBQ grill.