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n1oty
06-08-2012, 07:13
Just spotted this in the news this morning. I know the headline refers to guns, but the article actually refers to the entire program being temporarily suspended. I don't know if this means more and better rated equipment being available to us via the auctions or not, at least in the near term.

Excite News - APNewsBreak: Pentagon halts free guns for police (http://apnews.excite.com/article/20120608/D9V8RCV03.html)


John

L1A1
06-08-2012, 07:34
A lot of the local PDs around here have been returing the M16A2s they got from Unc. Sugar back in the 90s and are buying civilian M4 clones. From what I was told, the depts don't want the hassel associated with owning (Fed) gov't property that is on loan to them. The compliance checks are apparently a PITA.
Matt

91W350
06-08-2012, 09:15
It is really hard to get them all back in the locker for inspection day when they are issued to units all over the county. I am out of LE now, but it usually took a few days to get all of ours rounded up. Glen

L1A1
06-08-2012, 13:17
From what I was told, The depts also didn't like the feds coming in and eye ball'n everything else in the armory.

Here's some MV content: It's not only boomsticks that these depts are dumping, it's also vehicles. The local Sheriff's office got rid of their peacekeeper Not because of the above mentioned reasons but, because it was old & didn't work half the time. Because it was on the 1031 program(?) it had to go to another dept (beleive me, I inquired;)) whitch was also a giant PITA.
Matt

187
08-24-2012, 18:50
It was only for the weapons. They are doing a physical inventory. My guess is a dept either lost some and didn't report it or they actually found a way to trade some weapons in....which is prohibited.

None of the other things are effected at this time. We just picked up some computers and another HMMWV last week at Wright Patterson AFB.

dblcamaros
08-24-2012, 19:28
give it time........eventually it will all stop. Just a matter of time.

187
08-24-2012, 20:00
Agreed....some agencies will screw the program up for everyone.

They have been adding tons of new items to the website and actually are launching a new, improved website for screening items effective August 27th. When I was at Wright Patterson AFB last week, they had several pallets of computers (HP, Dell, etc) Lots of furniture and even a refrigerator.

L1A1
08-24-2012, 20:31
It was only for the weapons. They are doing a physical inventory. My guess is a dept either lost some and didn't report it or they actually found a way to trade some weapons in....which is prohibited.
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I know with the local depts around here, the issue was trying to get all of the 'issued" weapons back into the armory (from officer's vehicles) for the inspection. Giant PITA....I guess.
Matt

wreckerman893
08-24-2012, 21:42
Several small towns in this area have received HUMVEE's recently......I'm doing a land office business selling them slave cables. KA CHING

m16ty
08-25-2012, 00:06
I went to a local auction a few weeks ago. It was a police dept selling surplus military equipment. They had 5-ton tractors with lowboy trailers, excavators, trenchers, bulldozers, dump trucks, etc. This is the police dept mind you. What would they need with all that type equipment? I'm thinking they just get anything the government will give them, keep it for the prescribed amount of time, and then sell it for funds. IMO this is abusing the system. All they are is a surplus dealer that gets equipment for near nothing and reselling it retail.

Maybe I should start my own FD or something so I can get all the free stuff.

L1A1
08-25-2012, 00:44
Maybe I should start my own FD or something so I can get all the free stuff.


Let me know when you do, I'll apply for a position. Patrol cars could be M818s.....:beer:
Matt

Ma Duce
08-25-2012, 12:31
I went to a local auction a few weeks ago. It was a police dept selling surplus military equipment. They had 5-ton tractors with lowboy trailers, excavators, trenchers, bulldozers, dump trucks, etc. This is the police dept mind you. What would they need with all that type equipment? I'm thinking they just get anything the government will give them, keep it for the prescribed amount of time, and then sell it for funds. IMO this is abusing the system. All they are is a surplus dealer that gets equipment for near nothing and reselling it retail.

Maybe I should start my own FD or something so I can get all the free stuff.

That is exactly what is going on. I know of one PD that got 5 tn dumps and a dozer to build a range, 915 and more and plan on dumping the stuff next year to pay for new squads

m16ty
08-25-2012, 12:37
I went to a local auction a few weeks ago. It was a police dept selling surplus military equipment. They had 5-ton tractors with lowboy trailers, excavators, trenchers, bulldozers, dump trucks, etc. This is the police dept mind you. What would they need with all that type equipment? I'm thinking they just get anything the government will give them, keep it for the prescribed amount of time, and then sell it for funds. IMO this is abusing the system. All they are is a surplus dealer that gets equipment for near nothing and reselling it retail.

Maybe I should start my own FD or something so I can get all the free stuff.

One of the trenchers they sold was a Vermeer tracked machine with rock teeth. Had a grand total of 50 hrs on it. It looked brand new. I think it sold for $40,000+. On a dealers lot that thing will bring $80,000+. I just don't understand why the military would get rid of something almost new like this.

lost in the bush
08-25-2012, 13:15
It was only for the weapons. They are doing a physical inventory. My guess is a dept either lost some and didn't report it or they actually found a way to trade some weapons in....which is prohibited.

None of the other things are effected at this time. We just picked up some computers and another HMMWV last week at Wright Patterson AFB.


You 100% Correct.
Feds are doing an audit of weapons "Loaned: to LEO.
As I understand the situation from inside sources they could not account for over 18% in their initial inventory.

LEO Dept. now have 90 days to locate Missing Rifles or explain loss of same.

pmramsey
08-25-2012, 13:59
Several small towns in this area have received HUMVEE's recently......I'm doing a land office business selling them slave cables. KA CHING

Where there is confusion, there is profit. Nice work when you can get it.

RangerBob
07-31-2013, 21:05
A year later and still out of control...

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-impact-little-restraint-military-giveaways-174255839.html

USAFSS-ColdWarrior
08-01-2013, 09:53
I was contacted by a nearby city that wanted to get rid of an almost "brand new" M35A2 and 2 - yup TWO !!! - M113 Tracked APC's. ONLY after I started asking the REAL questions about ownership and their "authority" to sell them off did they start checking into how they acquired them in the first place.

The young "amateurs" now employed by the municipality suddenly reallized that the Green Stuff wasn't theirs to sell and they if they did so they could be facing time in FEDERAL PRISON.

In the end, they thanked me for the education and guidance and with much regret told me that the Army will be picking up the APCs for "Range Target Duty" (aka DESTRUCTION) - most probably at either Ft. Bliss or Ft. Hood, Texas. And that Deuce.... Well we can only hope she goes to GL for auction and a "new life" in the OD GREEN HOBBY. (Her guages read 52 hours and 210 miles since a complete rebuild just prior to being DRMO'd to the city's PD.)

Dodge man
08-01-2013, 10:34
I went to a local auction a few weeks ago. It was a police dept selling surplus military equipment. They had 5-ton tractors with lowboy trailers, excavators, trenchers, bulldozers, dump trucks, etc. This is the police dept mind you. What would they need with all that type equipment? I'm thinking they just get anything the government will give them, keep it for the prescribed amount of time, and then sell it for funds. IMO this is abusing the system. All they are is a surplus dealer that gets equipment for near nothing and reselling it retail.

Maybe I should start my own FD or something so I can get all the free stuff.


I used to go to government equipment sales at a nearby AFB and the local SD/ PDs would come pouring in just before the sale opened and take EVERYTHING in sight that was worth anything! They "hold" it a year or two and are then free to sell it or just give to city/county officials and some of their own officers and they in turn sell it anywhere they want to including E-Greed, CL and flea markets. The flea markets around here were FLOODED with surplus equipment some of it was VERY expensive when new. They no longer sell the stuff locally instead a company named Levy-Lathum has a contract to buy all of it and the government pays to ship it to them in Wash DC and, I'm told, they grind it up for scrap metal!

It's a racket!

EMD567
08-01-2013, 13:50
There was a news story in the local fishwrapper, and it highlighted a small town in Ga with 700 souls, that had a boat, scuba gear(no water nearby) decon units, and other stuff to the tune of 4 million dollars.

m16ty
08-01-2013, 23:03
They no longer sell the stuff locally instead a company named Levy-Lathum has a contract to buy all of it and the government pays to ship it to them in Wash DC and, I'm told, they grind it up for scrap metal!


They (Levy-Lathum) are the parent company of Government Liquidation.

Dodge man
08-02-2013, 08:56
Ah! I wondered how they got such preferential treatment! This explains a lot about both companies.

saddamsnightmare
04-12-2014, 20:47
April 12th, 2014.

Me, I'd rather the local PD's got it then GL, as if you're going to give it away, let the PD's sell it after two years and pocket the profit GL usually makes on the deals.:naner:

saddamsnightmare
06-18-2014, 20:40
June 18th, 2014.

Sangamon County Sheriff's office just got a MRAP with 755 miles on it and 28 tons tare weight. I guess they must have decided to release more of these critters to the LE community. Apparently Sangamon County had to leave the spare set of tires and rims behind, as it would have put the transport truck over road weight limits.....:?

trooper632
06-18-2014, 20:55
We, TXDPS swat just picked up 3 MRAPS and about 20, 395 tires

FloridaAKM
06-18-2014, 21:00
A local PD here in N Florida got an MRAP from Camp Shelby for $2K & drove it home. It is awesome to see driving down the highway, unless you are in front of it going too slow. They bought it for floods & bad weather help, if & when that might happen. Tax dollars @ work!

Jeepsinker
06-18-2014, 23:42
They bought it so they have the capability of turning anybody's house into another Waco compound.

Warthog
06-18-2014, 23:49
Closed for multiple reasons.

1 - This thread is two years old
2 - This is an MV site and not a gun site. The original post is about guns
3 - This turned into another MRAP thread. While there is nothing wrong with MRAP threads they go down hill fast
4 - The last post is political so this thread is history. Usually this type of post is what gets all the MRAP threads closed.