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air system really sufficient for impact use?

Monster Man

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hey all, well, I just got my 3/4 impact and 3/8 air line in anticipation for another flat tire <img src="emoticons/icon_smilie_bitchin.gif" alt="Bitchin">

no, just kidding, but I did get them. So my question is whether the air system on the deuce can get these lugnuts off? My 1/2" impact had no 'impact' at all on the nuts at 120 PSI. Will the 3/4 drive and 3/8 hose really make a difference?
I'll keep my breaker bar and Ken Tool with me as well <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_big.gif" alt="Big Smile">

Another question I had was about the size of the airlines on this truck- are they 1/4 or 3/8, and more importantly can you get more air out of the air source at the back with a gladhand than you can out of the fitting under the dash where I installed my quick disconnect?

I was also thinking of installing a third air tank, like a 10 gallon with 3/8 disconnect with 3/8 NPT instead of 1/4 NPT I can use the impact off of, just so I get the maximum air burst and as a reserve tank. Will it stress the compressor too much trying to fill three tanks?

thanks!
 

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I can't answer most of your questions but I have an idea of were you can take the maximum air flow from the air system. You can conect a socket to the emergensy air coupling at the back of the truck. This line has the wider tubes and it is directlly conected to the tanks.
Also I think that an extra tank would longer the time to reach operating presure but no significant stress to the copressor.
 

Trango

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So, as with any flow question, the answer is "maybe". The pressure gets there, and there's decent reserve with the tank(s).

The deuce compressor will certainly build enough pressure, but the question is how long you can run at pressure? For me, it's enough with the reserve. I've used my deuce as a mobile tool platform in jyards and run air tools with it, but I'm a special case. <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_tand.gif" alt="Tand">

I'd rate the air compressor at about 3 to 5 CFI.
 

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I bought a 3/4 drive impact to change tires about 2 years ago. It works fine but i have to pull the hand throttle to about 1500 prms so the air system could keep up with the inpact.
 

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Longhunter7

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ken!

<img src="emoticons/icon_smile_warn.gif" alt="Warning!"> You need to add Houston, Texas to your signature! <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_warn.gif" alt="Warning!">
 

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Adding an additional tank would be good. You could use anything like a storage tank as long as it has a 1/2 bung to swipe your air from. I have such a thing and I use a 3/8 hose and a clip on chuck to supply air to the tank and use the 1/2 side to feed the impact. My original purpose for the tank was painting. I use this extra tank between the compressor and my regulator dryer to capture additional condensation. Works great fot that too. The extra tank gives you the volume for short bursts to loosen lugs but you run out of air quickly!
 

dilvoy

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I have used the emergency gladhand socket to power my 1" impact wrench. It has enough flow to undo even badly rusted deuce wheel nuts with my impact wrench. I pull out the hand throttle a little. I guess I could pull it out a lot but the engine and fan get loud. It does use up the air in the two small tanks up quickly though, but the job does get done. A larger tank would keep me from waiting for pressure to build up.
 

da_sgt

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First off using a 3/4" impact with a 3/8" supply is just a waste of time. You need to use at least 1/2"<img src="emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif" alt="Wink"> Its all about supply and demand. You can't compare pressure(120) to preformance. It's all about volume, most air tools should not be run over 90psi <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_warn.gif" alt="Warning!"> If you have good volume (tank, and supply line) you could bust the nuts off...well leave that to your imagination. The key is...Big tools....Big air supply....Big Line..<img src="emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif" alt="Wink">
 

jeepthrills

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For the price of a 3/4" gun and socket you can buy an IR 2135 1/2" Titanium and an entire array of sockets for doing all of your maintenance. The deuce lugs are only supposed to be about 350 ft/Lbs. The Titanium is rated @ 1000 ft/lbs. That leaves plenty of room for 650lbs of rust!! Plus it takes up much less space in your side box. Just my <img src="emoticons/icon_smile_2cents.gif" alt="My 2 Cents">.
 

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DavidWymore

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I was thinking just the front aired down to 15 or 20 psi and back up to 30 or 40 when i go offroading. 4 tires to float the back, shouldn't have to air down much.

Can a deuce compressor be taken off the engine and used on other engines? Married or divorced setup? How much might a guy get one for?
 

Jones

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Kenny and others are right about volume. Air tools are hungry for lots of CFMs.
A large, dedicated air tank with 1/2" or bigger outlets is the way to go. And there is no point in choking down the system by putting a 3/8" coupler somewhere in the line... go 1/2" fittings too.
Plumbed in to the truck air system, it'll give you the volume as well as the pressure you need.
Another component I plumb in is a PR-4 or PR-2 pressure protection valve. It's there to close at a set pressure so I don't deplete truck air while running an air tool.
 

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Do you happen to have Part 1 of this video or maybe an explanation of how to set this up for a newb? I've got to pick my Deuce up in a few (or more) weeks and it's got a flat front tire from the GL pics. I am trying to gather the tools / tricks I will need to get it home.

I've got a spare 7gal tank I don't use anymore that would be a prime candidate for this. Picked up a glad hand today. I was going back and forth on what size air hose to get to run off the glad hand. I understand you run 1/2" from this extra tank to the impact, but would you recommend a 1/2" hose from the glad hand to the extra tank too? Would a 1/2" line from the glad hand to the air chuck be any benefit for airing up the tires over a 3/8" hose?


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m16ty

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If I was running 1/2" from the tank I'd run 1/2" to the tank also. I didn't see the video (I've got dail up and it just takes too long :-() but all you need is the glad hand coupled with the glad hand on the truck, hose going from glad hand to tank, and a hose comming out of tank to whatever you're trying to run with it.

You might gain a little going 1/2" to the chuck but it won't be much because of the small passages in the chuck and the valve stem. I personally think you can get buy with 3/8". 1/2" is hard to roll up very compact compaired to 3/8".
 

rwoods

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If your tank has a hose with a quick disconnect on it, then here is a setup which might interest you. You can get different size fittings. I run a 1/2' wrench and this is sufficient for my tasks. You just connect the tank and the glad hand to the male ends and the tool air line to the female disconnect.
 

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number9

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Ahhhh. I see. Nice.

So, when you have the glad hand connected to a air hose running to a portable tank acting as an extra air supply, what / how do you stop the air flow from over filling the tank? Do you just watch the gauge on the tank and when it gets to 120PSI (just an example) shut off the valve on the truck air line at the glad hand?

I read contrasting suggestions on impact usage on the truck for the lug nuts. Some say gotta have 3/4" drive impact, some say a GOOD 1/2" drive IR impact will be good enough.

I've been going around and around in my head on what to buy and how to configure the air supply for running an impact off the truck. I will likely have to change a tire when I pick my Deuce up, so I need some ability to remove and install lug nuts.

I see guys say go with 1/2" hose all the way, some say 3/8" hose is fine. If I go with 1/2" hose, and use (if I can find) 1/2" fittings to the impact it will still get choked down to 1/4" at the fitting on the impact won't it?

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