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    Sorry all for the crappy formatting of the prior post, the forum software just does not want to work the way I want it to today :
    Unimog SEE, Unimog 1300L Ambulance

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakbagger View Post
    sorry i missed this one. I will give you my standard answer, it depends what you are comparing the see to.
    Strikes one as an OUTSTANDING summary, peakbagger.

    Thank you!

    Makes me so glad I do not own a SEE, but additionally glad that others choose willingly to do so.

    That way, I got something to entertain me during popcorn moments here at the crib!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin33ba07 View Post
    Itīs the countrys neighbour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyfang View Post
    This is very true. It's a add on. You can take it off. But you all are focused on only the negative side of the STE/ICE system. And let me state here, the STE/ICE was a failure throughout the military. For three reasons. Soldiers could not use it/ and lost any confidence what so ever in it. It was too complicated. And last but not least, the system never got off the ground before the military "ditched it". No effort was made to correct known faults, to expand its uses or to make it simpler to use.

    OK. Now to the good points. Those pins in the C-plug all go to places that it might be handy to be able to check, without getting up, and moving around. Or opening something up. If you look at the points that the wires come from, you just might be surprised. I am not a CEE guy. Haven't looked at the wire Schmatices and checked those points out. But I have done so on equipment I do know well. Power generation. And there are more then several nice to be able to check voltages, available at my C1 plug. Now most of you don't work on the CEE everyday of your life. I did army power generation for about 28 years. Using that plug saved me a million miles, and often allowed me to work alone, insted of needing someone to go around on the other side to mesure voltage while I started the gen set. I also could use it to jump around several circuits, when they didn't work normally. So before you rip everything out, might want to look. And if it's not worth your time, then do it.
    Thanks Guy, That is the first good reason to keep it in place.The two reasons I want to get rid of it is first the wires are not on the schematic and wind up confusing me while I try to sort it out. Second the after thought way it was added on in my opinion results in wires running along places that could get hot, or exposed to rocks from the road etc. and it just bothers me. The problem I see with using it for multi meter diagnostics is that I have no idea which pin goes to which wires. so I am not sure how it would help me.

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    Let me see if I can ask someone who is in the know about where the wires go.

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    There are other "SEE people" out there on SS who for whatever reason aren't adding to this thread - maybe they're unaware of all the twists and turns it's taken. One of those people has echoed what Guyfang is saying: that they go all over the truck. They also agreed with Guyfang in that they could be/was helpful to them when they worked on SEEs in active service.

    I don't really have a strong opinion on it one way or the other, but I think we should probably SEE what these guys can add before completely writing it off...

    SJ/JD

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    The student handout in the misc technical manual forum has details on the STE/ICE system including what pin goes where. The value of the STE/ICE appears to be that the STE/ICE box had a memory chip with the working range of values of each circuit. I have not seen a list of these values. The shunt on the battery cables is a nice thing to have as if someone were so inclined they could hook meter to it and monitor battery amperage.
    Unimog SEE, Unimog 1300L Ambulance

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakbagger View Post
    The shunt on the battery cables is a nice thing to have as if someone were so inclined they could hook meter to it and monitor battery amperage.
    I'd use the clamp-on meter if I wanted to know. Every connection in an electrical system is a potential problem source, so the fewer the better, I think.

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    I cut mine out in a fit of rage last year. Perhaps that was a self inflicted gunshot to the foot, but I loath clutter and poorly installed systems, so for me it simplified the diagnostic procedure. To each his own. I would love to watch someone diagnose an issue using the STE/ICE wires, in theory it would be a great help, but I know not how to use it so it's an albatross. My .02 only.

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