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    USMC 00-08 you lucked out, that is the early M135 tail gate. That style was only made for a short time and most that have surfaced have the step part beaten or missing.

    tom135 020.jpg tom135 001.jpg Jersy hick's crew cab 135 has one also.
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    Torus, torque convertor......, how about "Fluid Coupler".......here's the 1953 fluid coupler video.



    Maybe one of those brilliant mechanic types will explain the 'easy way' to get at the brakes. I see them talk about only pulling drums or axle assemblies and I only know how to remove everything. Probably the best way to go unless they've already been inspected.

    On page 149 TM 9-8024 #39 states:

    """"""Note. Complete brakeshoe mechanism cannot be inspected or replaced un-less brake drum and hub are removed. Brake drums only, however can be removed (par. 240) for inspection of brake lining condition only. Coordinate the following inspection of brake shoe mechanism with the ANNUAL wheel bearing service described above."""""""

    Still looking for support on the compressor and shock repair?

    TAILGATE, Jerseyhick had the first one I saw. I've looked at 30 trucks and have not seen another, wish I had one. I've read they were made in the early years so some more details on the funky tailgate would be handy.

    I don't like assuming so this time I anticipated you could use the measurements on the short legs for the seats.

    Looks like they used the same mounting feature as the long legs, cut it short then bolted an extension on.

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    Looks like I will be taking everything apart to do the brakes. Probably best anyway. Yes I am still looking for help on the air governor and shocks.

    Thanks for the pictures!! That is exactly what I needed. I think I can modify some of the extra pieces to look and function just like what I need.

    Do I need to post up more pictures of the tailgate?

    Today I started working on some brake issues. Someone at some point in the past broke the brass brake line fitting off of the driver side of the rear axle and in the process belled out the first 3/8 of an inch inside the block that it screws into. I had to get a 1/8 inch NPT tap to run inside the block and into the smooth metal below the old threads. Then I took a 1 1/2 inch long brass nipple, put a collar and the brass fitting in the picture together to fix it. I'll get the part number to the brass fitting in the picture added to the parts list and will post it on here soon since I don't have the number in front of me. It is what we need if anyone else has a broken fitting.
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    In the process of working on that, I found that the rubber brake line that goes from the middle axle to the frame in front of the rear axle has a hole and is blowing brake fluid all over the back of the middle driver side wheel. I thought it was bad wheel cylinders but maybe not.

    Also found out that the front brake lines are not even connected and the port on the front axle is plugged off. I'm not sure what I will get into when that is reconnected. This is why the brakes are weak I suppose.

    Part number for the brass fitting is 122520 at Bumper to Bumper and O'Reilly's.
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    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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    The shock absorber problem has been resolved, but still need some guidance on the air governor.
    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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    I don't fear much on these old things, but I treat the transmissions with respect. Having said that, I would tear the governor cover off and see what is wrong. Cracked cover, bad diaphragm??? I suspect there is no adjusting, only a spring and maybe a check ball??? Post what you find.

    I really like the step, so practical.
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    I have ransacked the house looking for TM 9-1819AA the 1952 Restricted edition of the Ordnance Field And Depot Maintenance GMC Model 302 Engine manual,it has a chapter dealing exclusively with the troubleshooting and rebuild of the Midland Air Compressor and Governor Assembly. The later TM 9-8025-1 Engine manual does not have the chapter on this. Will keep looking as I know that I have both these manuals and just can't remember where they are. Good luck on your project!

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    That would be very helpful. I will be working on that soon but am trying to research it out a little so I don't make it worse and not be able to find replacement parts for a while. Does anyone have a part number for a new diaphragm?

    Today I got the shock absorbers serviced and the air worked out of them. Then I started working on hooking up the front brake lines, but I need to do some more work to get everything to line up right. The original fitting that the lines would have screwed into at the axle is long gone. A 1/8 inch pipe plug was blocking where that fitting would have been.
    Last edited by USMC 00-08; 08-06-2014 at 23:05.
    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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    Too bad you don't have a donor truck close by. It gives a guy more confidence to tear stuff apart. Having super mechanics around saying stuff like, "Just make a gasket", "just use a puller", " just service it", "just take it apart and fix it" "why can't you put a seal in straight" or "grab the spanner pliers" helps a great deal. Real glad to see Butch back so now you'll find everything you need to get er done. I have info on the governor adjustment on page 453 of TM 9-8024 but very little info on the compressor. Governor settings are just screwing, prying and twisting so nothing we haven't done to the top of a beer bottle.

    Gunfreak has been a mechanical inspiration showing the details of a tear-down, sure miss him around here.

    http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthr...air-compressor

    It does appear that some more parts are finding their way out of the barns. After having a look for the AA version of 1918 using the search terms "G749 air compressor" "TM1918AA G749" "G749 parts" I realize why I don't like the terms "add to cart".

    You have an elephant of repairs ahead of you so if you do a compressor tear-down, keep the photos coming so we can see what you're seeing. I have spares.

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    Nice clean truck for its age! I love this model, wish they had diesels though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m1010plowboy View Post
    Gunfreak has been a mechanical inspiration showing the details of a tear-down, sure miss him around here.
    Yes he has. He should be about done with basic training by now. Maybe we will hear from him before he heads of to his MOS school.

    Today I got the front brakes hooked back up, everything bled and a test drive done. The truck stopped great!!.....until the rubber hose that goes from the steel line to the driver side wheel blew. It was old and brittle. I'll be hunting down more hoses and adding the numbers to our part list soon.

    Some of the wheel cylinders are leaking and will need rebuilt/replaced in the near future. I plan on going through the brakes, completing an axle at a time, starting with the front, as time allows.

    I also spoke with the person that sold the truck to the guy I bought it from and got a little history on the thing. It came out of the military, went to the forestry service and then to a fire department in Kansas, which is who he bought it from. He said that it had a leaking head gasket when he got it and when he tore things down to replace that, had a valve job done. That was less than 4,000 miles ago. He also has a complete NOS set of canvas for the bed that I am going to go get on Saturday. The truck had a gun turret, bows and new spare tires as well, but the guy I bought it from didn't want any of that and it was all sold not long ago...except for the canvas. He said he also has a trailer, some plug wires and a generator.

    I've also got a lead on some other bows that I am following up on.
    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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