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    The metal will be backed up by the current plywood sheets. Once the metal is in place, I'll put the wood back to its original position. Then I'll install the PSP as the second layer of armor. 1/16 is thin but I don't need the real stuff to tell the GT story. Instead of using sandbags with real sand, I'll go down to the yard waste recycler and get a load of compost. Much lighter and easier to fill the bags with. I'll also place a couple spare tires, ammo cans, cots, litters and any other equipment and/or supplies they carried.
    3 each M35A2's 2 WO/W, 1 W/W:
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Toys For Tots”, aka “Armadillo”
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Tribute to Lt Col Ken Bourland”, aka “Warthog”
    1970 M35A2 W/W “War Wagon”, Vietnam War Gun Truck Tribute
    1 each M59 gasser dump truck
    2 each M211's 1 W/W, 1WO/W
    1 each M52A2 tractor
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    1 each M37, with Dodge poly 318, hydraulic clutch
    1 each G506 Fire truck “Sparky”
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    Sounds good. I think I miss read your other post, I thought you were saying the real ones were 1/16".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffhuey1n View Post
    The final recommendation is to tape (training) claymore mines to the outside on the bed. Anybody got some inexpensive training/simulated claymores for sale or trade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjc View Post
    Sounds good. I think I miss read your other post, I thought you were saying the real ones were 1/16".
    I went back and reread my post. I should have paid better attention in English class
    3 each M35A2's 2 WO/W, 1 W/W:
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Toys For Tots”, aka “Armadillo”
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Tribute to Lt Col Ken Bourland”, aka “Warthog”
    1970 M35A2 W/W “War Wagon”, Vietnam War Gun Truck Tribute
    1 each M59 gasser dump truck
    2 each M211's 1 W/W, 1WO/W
    1 each M52A2 tractor
    1 each M1009
    1 each M37, with Dodge poly 318, hydraulic clutch
    1 each G506 Fire truck “Sparky”
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjc View Post
    Sounds good. I think I miss read your other post, I thought you were saying the real ones were 1/16".
    The armor kit in Vietnam was 3/8 ths thick that were 3x4' panels. I have had the kit replicated but in 5/16"
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtdeucedriver View Post
    The armor kit in Vietnam was 3/8 ths thick that were 3x4' panels. I have had the kit replicated but in 5/16"
    I looked at doing the same thing. I don't have access to a laser cutter, unfortunately. Some of the later armor was welded together without the rifle ports or bolt holes. I have a welder that can handle the 1/16 thickness. After looking at all the sources, both on and off line, I think I can create an accurate replica. It won't match War Wagon (M35A1) to a "T". maybe it'll become War Wagon II. That happened when one truck was lost, destroyed, whatever. The name was reused, a roman number II meant it had its own identity.
    i have my steel plates and when I get a few more honey dues done, I'll get to go to work on it.
    3 each M35A2's 2 WO/W, 1 W/W:
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Toys For Tots”, aka “Armadillo”
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Tribute to Lt Col Ken Bourland”, aka “Warthog”
    1970 M35A2 W/W “War Wagon”, Vietnam War Gun Truck Tribute
    1 each M59 gasser dump truck
    2 each M211's 1 W/W, 1WO/W
    1 each M52A2 tractor
    1 each M1009
    1 each M37, with Dodge poly 318, hydraulic clutch
    1 each G506 Fire truck “Sparky”
    USMC/USAF

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffhuey1n View Post
    I looked at doing the same thing. I don't have access to a laser cutter, unfortunately. Some of the later armor was welded together without the rifle ports or bolt holes. I have a welder that can handle the 1/16 thickness. After looking at all the sources, both on and off line, I think I can create an accurate replica. It won't match War Wagon (M35A1) to a "T". maybe it'll become War Wagon II. That happened when one truck was lost, destroyed, whatever. The name was reused, a roman number II meant it had its own identity.
    i have my steel plates and when I get a few more honey dues done, I'll get to go to work on it.
    I did not have access either but I found a company that does it and hired them to make the kit. The armor kit in VN was actually hardened armor plate. This was the panels that had the gun ports and they were not bolted together either but stitch welded. Some boxes held up better than others just because of design. If you do enough research, you can see changes where reinforcements were added because of constant cracking. The Boxes that used "Plate Steel" were exactly that of steel quality. This is why usually in the double wall armor designed boxes, the Plate kit was on the outside. Send me a IM, I can put you intouch with a couple of the crew.

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    It's been a while since I posted anything on War Wagon, figured it was quiet enough I can jot down some things. The steel plate is working really good. It wouldn't work with out plywood backing though. Three sides (drivers, pax and front) are installed. I've also used 2x12 timbers at the top of each side (see Timothy J. Kutta's "Gun Trucks" book, page 56, Eve of Destruction) both for something less painful to lean on and to provide added strength and rigidity. I can't imagine what it would be like using heavier steel... Yes I can and I wouldn't be able to do this on my own. I've got 90% of my radio build ready for install. Just have to beef up the panel so the radio mount doesn't break loose. I'm repositioning both gun mounts. They'll be placed outboard on the front of the bed. I plan on having them sit about 2-3 feet back and inboard about 2 feet or so. Here's some pics:
    note: I corrected my reference. It wasn't Lyles book it was a Squadron/Signal Publication. There are some good pics in it that weren't in James Lyles' books.
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    3 each M35A2's 2 WO/W, 1 W/W:
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Toys For Tots”, aka “Armadillo”
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Tribute to Lt Col Ken Bourland”, aka “Warthog”
    1970 M35A2 W/W “War Wagon”, Vietnam War Gun Truck Tribute
    1 each M59 gasser dump truck
    2 each M211's 1 W/W, 1WO/W
    1 each M52A2 tractor
    1 each M1009
    1 each M37, with Dodge poly 318, hydraulic clutch
    1 each G506 Fire truck “Sparky”
    USMC/USAF

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    Nice build and tribute!. I live just south of Laramie Wyoming by about 20 miles. Not sure where in Laramie County you live but would like to see your truck when your done. Maybe next parade or event you go to.
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    Armed Forces Day event on May 14. Should be fun, lots of people and stuff to do. Would you be interested in bringing your truck?
    3 each M35A2's 2 WO/W, 1 W/W:
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Toys For Tots”, aka “Armadillo”
    1972 M35A2 WO/W “Tribute to Lt Col Ken Bourland”, aka “Warthog”
    1970 M35A2 W/W “War Wagon”, Vietnam War Gun Truck Tribute
    1 each M59 gasser dump truck
    2 each M211's 1 W/W, 1WO/W
    1 each M52A2 tractor
    1 each M1009
    1 each M37, with Dodge poly 318, hydraulic clutch
    1 each G506 Fire truck “Sparky”
    USMC/USAF

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