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    Going to start a Bob on an M35....I have a donor M105 and planned on using the bed and springs...but I'm getting differing opinions on the springs....M105 or front deuce springs? What are the advantges and disadvantages, other the obvious load ratings.
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    The M35 front springs are a direct fitment and require only the drilling of the holes for the spring hanger to mount on the M35 frame. If I remember correctly the M105 springs require the M105 frame to be sectioned and placed on the M35 frame, to get the correct lift needed, or a 4" lift block. I guess it depends on what you have on hand.

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    Not sure what you mean "sectioned". The web page just appears to show 105 springs drilled and attached.
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    The 105 springs are attached to the side of the frame. If you take the mounts off the trailer and attach them to the deuce frame, the back is going to sit low. If you take the trailer frame and just lop it off in front of and behind the springpack and add that whole section under the deuce frame, It will sit closer to level. I like this method as it offers a wider spring stance but I would box and brace the trailer frame before the install. Other than that, the springs themselves are nearly identical with the exception of the helper leaf.

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    Ahhh. I see, but that appears to have been a one off....I see that it is mentioned about flipping the hubs, do I have to do this for ZZL 1400's from an M923, Not a big deal, or is there an adapter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recovry4x4 View Post
    The 105 springs are attached to the side of the frame. If you take the mounts off the trailer and attach them to the deuce frame, the back is going to sit low. If you take the trailer frame and just lop it off in front of and behind the springpack and add that whole section under the deuce frame, It will sit closer to level. I like this method as it offers a wider spring stance but I would box and brace the trailer frame before the install. Other than that, the springs themselves are nearly identical with the exception of the helper leaf.

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    There have been quite a few folks use the frame section like that. As far as the tires and hub flips, that will all be dependent on the rims that you choose.
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    Any thoughts on rim types for flipped vs not flipped?
    I was told that there are adapters for some rims.

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    This is the bobber with 395s, aluminum rims, rear has the hubs flipped, and there is no rub on the front.
    All four wheels have adapters.
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    Looks sweet, who sells the adapter? And what rims and tires are those off of..HEMMT?

    anoter question, can I reuse the U-Bolts from the m105 and add the 4in block? Or I do need longer U-bolts?
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