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    Default Civil Defence historical photos

    You better come visit soon because we're going so fast it feels like we're flying.

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    Have you folks checked out the pictures on the facebook site where you don't need to sign into facebook when you look at pictures. I think annoying advertising pops up once in a while but if you want to see hundreds of NEW historical and hysterical pictures of joint American/ Canadian operations including drinking then go to the link. Many thanks to the folks that are helping us dig up the history.

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    https://www.facebook.com/CanadianCiv...umAndArchives/

    That's right, hundreds of old photos that tell some great stories. Like these ones including an old photo of all three levels of military coming together in one unit.

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    I guess we can talk about it folks, the data is rolling in and the map has been updated. Our programs for Civil Defence after August of 1949 were big and this map is just the start. The link below lets you peak at our first attempt at creating hardened structures for sniffing Fall out. With changes and advancing technology after 58' and more after 1968, Civil Defence programs were abandoned and new philosophies implemented. Click on a dot in the link to see a small description of what we were thinking back in the 50's.
    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...4495294021&z=4

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    If you want to know more then you need to find a way past this guy.

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    Default Civil Defence Defense Supplies

    Well Doctors and Nurses, it's still there. After being batched in the 50's and 60's, medical supplies were distributed, decentralized and spread out to hardened structures surrounding target areas throughout the entire Country. The documentation and rumors were abound and today we found some remnants.

    Seems funny to say outloud as I type this but we saved a bunch of old cardboard boxes full of outdated medical supplies. Fortunately we aren't alone in the discovery so the owner, local museum and hospital staff will help make good decisions with any hazardous items. The majority is saline however we'll don the proper Personal Protection Equipment before we move it.

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    Take a look at the spelling of Civil Defence on the boxes. We still use the British spelling north of the 49th and some folks ride that Canadian spelling train pretty hard. I'm not sure what happened here other than, I'm not saying, I'm just saying it's possible our manufacturers couldn't supply the quantity we thought we required so we bought supplies from our neighbour. .....and yes that's the correct way to spell neighbour.

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    Somehow we have a few boxes with the American version of Civil Defense written on them and that part of the story will most definitely be told at our museum. Thanks for the saline boys!


    Let's follow up with some random structural pics of columns, beams and tributary spans, stairways to no where and the Royal Boiler.

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    Soooooo, what do you think is behind the different sized red bricks?

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    Default Just another brick in the wall

    Quote Originally Posted by letssled View Post
    Soooooo, what do you think is behind the different sized red bricks?
    The mysteries behind the doors marked 'High Voltage Do Not Enter', the walls with no doors and the crates that continue to surface get the spidey senses tingling, but I don't have the answers.

    Fella's, ladies and service animals, we have a steel crate at the dome that's still sealed, heavy and maybe someone knows what's in it. It's on the priority list but lower down then security.

    The dome team spent a few days working on the lower floors and sent me the pictures of how the second floor looks with the lights on. There's a ton of clean up to do and we hope there's a big prize in the crate.

    Any guesses?



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    I'm on a mission sometime this spring to move this 2 ton Brockway from skunkworks to the dome. At that time the team can assemble and get a peak at the crate contents.

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    Meanwhile, we keep digging for answers and the story!

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    Cool!

    That mystery crate seems to be sitting directly under the chain hoist trolley that delivered it to that position so long ago.

    Using that same chain hoist to levitate the crate's cover to reveal its hidden treasure is like Divine Providence. USE IT!!!

    Inquiring minds want to know what's inside that BIG EASTER EGG ! ! !

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    I'm intrigued by that lovely trailer! Any data plates on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M813rc View Post
    I'm intrigued by that lovely trailer! Any data plates on it?

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    Glad you spoke up on the trailer, Rory.
    I have lusted in my mind for just such a fine specimen.
    Oh, the fantasies I could have about repurposing that wagon for my own covetous use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M813rc View Post
    I'm intrigued by that lovely trailer! Any data plates on it?
    Cheers
    The trailer is still behind barbwire so I will follow up with details within a few weeks we're hoping. Here's a link with what looks like a brother trailer, the 2 ton Rubery Owen but I don't see the data plate in the same spot on our trailer so a follow-up is required. http://hmvf.co.uk/topic/29894-rubery...ckhouse-2-ton/

    The latest surprise is from the bowels of a building that was torn down in 1970, its basement contents hauled over to the new building where Civil Defence CD items from the 50's and 60's are still sitting to this day. Most of the items were disposed of in 1996, some more items were thrown out two years ago but there was this one room that wasn't used much so to our good fortune, some of those items were saved.

    The only connection we had to verify that the P.A. system was part of the CD inventory was one man. It's just another reason we sense an urgency to hustle and find the folks that were part of the CD/EMO program.

    Here's a peak at the 1966 canteen, the made in Japan Fanon PA system still in the sealed bag, 4 packages of signage sitting on two stretchers from the Early Deuce era.

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    Love the signage, I'd be putting the out of bounds sign on my shop.
    O Lord, won't you buy me a diesel Humvee. My friends all drive Teslas, that won't work for me. Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from the DMV. So Lord, won't you buy me a diesel Humvee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weller View Post
    Love the signage, I'd be putting the out of bounds sign on my shop.
    Ya know, If we were smarter, we'd pick up on that idea immediately, re-create the signs and make them available to the public. There is no other info on the signs yet and we're looking for that providence document that gives us the ability to tag them with Civil Defence Museum logos so they mean something. Likely, manufactured by the thousands and distributed before 1961 into thousands of buildings across Canada. These signs were moved out of a basement in 1970ish so we have that date as the last known era. There's a groovy selection so a little something for everyone to choose a favorite.

    The crystal ball can be hazy with an unknown economy and everyone paddling in different directions but I can only gush with admiration at our crazy team trying to share the story.

    Here's another great article about one leg of our adventure. I told the boys owning an antique toy on wheels is hard work and they just keep working hard.
    http://mystarcollectorcar.com/may-20...eum-on-wheels/

    """""MAY 2019: A RETIRED 1967 TDH-3501 GMC BUS IS NOW A COLD WAR MUSEUM ON WHEELS"""""

    """""The main players were the United States and the Soviet Union because these two countries developed enough nuclear weapons to wipe out the planet numerous times over. There were other nuclear-armed nations, but the US and USSR were the big dogs on the radioactive porch."""""
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