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    Default Remembering what we haven't yet discovered

    It's a little late but thought you folks would like to see it anyway. My Mother's Remembrance Day tribute to her Dad who came back home after WW1 and Uncle Ralph Crickmay Ewing who did not. Mom's family housed American Pilots in WW11 so she included a post card. Pretty cool effort.

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    Our Canadian Civil Defence Museum artist pulled this together.

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    We've been granted some pretty crazy access to Fall Out shelter structures so the buried Westeel soldiers will soon be documented. Here's one going in to Edmonton's Meadowlark area.

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    One primary search for Alberta is to uncover all 110 posts from this Edmonton news paper article.

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    Just part of our ancient Nuclear Detonation and Fallout Reporting System. I think you guys have seen the maps.
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    Historic pics in Meadowlark Edmonton.

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    A huge thanks to Steel Soldier Terrh who thought of me when he spotted this Radiacmeter. Very similar to the 1960 Army manual spec. Any of you guys ever use one of these?

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    Default Home Shelters

    Through the small closet door under the stairs.

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    ...down more stairs, through the tunnel,

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    .....see 56 years of history pass in front of you. Real cool that the shelf is still in there. We'll get to re-create the shot with modern supplies and a fresh couple.

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    Today's pictures are a result of finding an old newspaper article about a shelter, dropping a museum card in a mail box and getting a call from a cool battery guy that let me in his house. All we've got left to do is take him for a ride in a Cold War 6x6.

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    Well Jesss...You tease me by showing me the Newspaper clipping and walking around the outside of the house and then not taking me to see the insides...!!!

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    Default Schools out

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattech View Post
    Well Jesss...You tease me by showing me the Newspaper clipping and walking around the outside of the house and then not taking me to see the insides...!!!
    That was my first residential adventure so it was good to do it alone. The house is for rent so we can go anytime until it's rented. Even then he said, "If I needed to get excited like that again, he'd let me in."


    I thought about staying in school until I became a professor. When I realized we only live about 90 years if we're lucky, I didn't think I'd have enough time. Instead, I found professors that already knew what I was talking about and I'm letting them work with me. We've all been busy and if you haven't had time to check out the map before, good. It's so much more valuable now that we have the FRP's in my province of Alberta marked.
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    WHAAAT? Not the FRP's you say. Abandoned in 1968, Canada built fallout shelters in a 15 x 45 mile grid across the entire country for fallout sniffing. FRP's, Fallout Reporting Posts in the NDFRS Nuclear Detonation and Fallout Reporting System were hard wired so staff could tap to each other and report to headquarters. In the early period, under pressure in a growing blooming mushroom age, the volunteers for these stations would leave their families and head to their various sniffing posts. They would lock down and wait, only to emerge after a period of time when they could put on NBC clothing, head outside, take a reading, head back in, decontaminate, then send the results in. These weren't elaborate in the beginning, likely two man, provisions for days or weeks, away from family, hidden in the bowels of a concrete and steel holder.

    Our neighbours on both sides were noisy and had big rockets they'd fire off so we did a lot of work up here to get ready for the after-party. I was in school, this school in 1977. Living near the Boreal Forest we could have built our schools out of wood. Thanks to noisy neighbours I got to duck under the desk in this fortification.

    With one inch rebar this almost qualifies as a Steel Soldier, but I won't push it. The roof design, the beams, columns, tributary spans.......hover over a soon to be discovered footing. Welcome to Jr. High School Kids. The urgency to beat the bus to the wrecking yard continues.

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    Which school is this?..where?... I'll go and ask for the flag pole..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattech View Post
    Which school is this?..where?... I'll go and ask for the flag pole..!
    Wellington, up the street. Visco is demo contractor, EMC2 Prime and City is owner.

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    Default Civil Defence Finds and fronds

    I thought the big story of the day would be the second story, I was in a fallout shelter built in the 50's......then the phone rang.

    I passed my Canadian Civil Defence Museum card to the operator on his first day of work and told him what I thought I knew. On the fifth day of demolition he called me. "It's taking a lot longer than we thought to get this building down". He had a chance to peek into the areas below grade and now he's super interested in the building's real story.

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    Today's phone call floored me, or roofed me, or reinforced steeled me with a wonder of the people who first used the concrete hallways. "I'll leave it on the back of my truck", he says. This 1943 Canadian Women's Army Corps cap was found in an unusual location. My second favorite person on the planet today thought of me so we're real fortunate that we took the time to open comms before the demolition.

    In new condition, maybe a prop from a drama class or left behind by an attendee of a Civil Defence class held in abundance, for decades, across Canada.

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    It makes this seem a little less exciting but having a tour of this old Fall out Reporting Post, captured in a 2005 picture by our museum's Executive Director is still a little nuts. The picture is part of Andrew Burtch's book about Canada's little fallout shelters.

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    Default The plot, floor, walls and plan thicken

    Remember the days when we'd get together on Saturdays and practice rescuing our buddies from the second floor using a ladder and ropes?

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    If you do than you're experienced and probably remember your evac maps too. Some of you even remember your Warden. Right in the middle of the letter 'A' is Wellington School. http://www.infrastructure.alberta.ca...ton-School.pdf

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    Built in 1957 at 4450m2 and in expanded by another 1767.4m2 in 1961, the precast T beam, concrete and rebar construction, interlaced with fire-proof roof joists may have beat the current planners. Originally, the site was destined for a complete clean-up and a new building constructed in its place. Latest news today is they're going push the concrete into 'the hole', then cover it with dirt and leave it. The next few days should be real interesting.

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    I grabbed some close-up pictures for our engineers on board. Check out that roof material. Looks like a ceramic tube with internal cross supports then rebar and concrete on top. Sassy.

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    We can't forget to add the map. It's been updated again with the fine folks of B.C. in the mix.https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...1999999998&z=5
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    Default Civil Defence education and evaluation program CDEEP

    Well folks, it's happened! The student becomes the educator. Plowboy's been invited to do a little education seminar at the University of Alberta faculty building. Wish me luck, I still have a lot to learn!

    "What story do you want to tell"

    We will be focusing on the people and equipment part of the story. A quick path backwards from my Goose the deuce preservation to its usage in civil defence. How my hunt for M135 history led me to preside over the current flock at the Canadian Civil Defence Museum Association. How Fred's discovery of Edmonton's Civil Defence bunker in 2009 led to the purchase of a sticks and mortar cold war radar dome in 2018. We'll discuss Andrew Burtch's map and how Canada went underground 'everywhere we are'. The ladies will be on the forefront with the early NBC Nuclear Biological Chemical warfare nursing programs to the sweet elderly lady that baked cookies each morning in the Edmonton bunker.

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    The items we've found as part of the Edmonton story will be on display as well as some of our first merchandising ideas.

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    Since we're talking schools, my high school is a pile of steel and concrete. They found some big rebar so the psi potential of this structure just went up. The only thing left to explore is the mechanical room. The massive voids under the school are being revealed and pose more questions.

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    You're having too much fun out there without me! I better come for another visit soon.
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