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    Brings back some memories for me. In 1974 I worked for the City of Boulder, Colorado. They had a civil defense grant ($$) to survey the entire city, building by building, to determine the buildings survivability and/or suitability to house people in such an emergency. There were still several large bomb shelters in the city but not enough room for everyone. Hospital sub-basements, hotels, banks, power plants, mines, tunnels etc etc. The Nuclear trigger plant was just down the road from Boulder and various NORAD facilities were within a few miles. I think the project itself was a major factor leading to the demise of those facilites. It stirred up too many emotions and anti-nuke sentiments. Several Colorado Universities had government grants to study various aspects of Nuclear Energy in secret as part of the Manhattan Project in the late 1930's and early 1940's. These research facilities are mostly still around, because of the contamination, but sealed off, as I understand it. I am sure the story was similar in a lot of American towns and Canadian as well.

    In the mid 1980's, I worked for the city of Denver Colorado on a project to convert and upgrade a lot of the old sirens from National Defense to more Weather/natural related catastrophe's.

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    My siren needs a little work, but I'm sure it will buff right out.

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    Few other CD items.

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    In 1957, my Dad and his new bride, my Mom, moved into a house down the block and across the alley from what we think is Edmonton's first nuclear protected building. They had no idea.

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    My sister worked for Alberta disaster services in the 80's and when a killer tornado hit in 1987, she helped run rescue operations from the building's protected communications room. She never told anyone that it was a bunker.

    My first insurance broker, who became a great friend, bought the building and has now sold it. It sits vacant ready for a photo-documentory and this is how it looks today. He had no idea what he bought until I found the news articles from the 50's.

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    It was supported with Uninterrupted Power Supply and the same Chrysler engine that still exists in the second 1950's bunker just ten blocks away. Who doesn't love a Chrysler?


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    The two rear entrances from the original Provincial bunker still exist as well as the base for the communication tower. The building has gone under three major additions and partial interior destruction of the original bunker. Most of the destruction was done by civilian owners who weren't aware of the original historical significance of the building and altered it beyond repair.

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    The west section contained 2500 sq. ft. that was self sustaining for 2 weeks.

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    The Municipal/ City bunker that sits 10 blocks south is also 2500 sq. ft, all underground . It's back door is nestled in the Mackenzie ravine that connects to the main river valley running through the City.

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    Here are a few more crates that have survived and are intended for display in a great big, climate controlled museum someday.

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    Here's a link that was buried back in 09' about the Chrysler Air Raid Siren.

    http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthr...id-Siren/page3

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    Man that's awesome!!! So much intentionally hidden history.
    Best chance at a bomb/fallout shelter out here is an old well or root cellar. LoL!
    OH how I would love to own a facility like that.
    If you Google "Deifenbunker" there I quite a few write ups on them. There were two major ones in Ottawa. One was demolished and the other us now a museum.
    According to my research, some documents conflicted with others, there were at least one or two build in every province / territory in Canada from the 1950s to 1960s.
    Most were all built to self sustainability for at least 30 years according to one article.
    The bulk of these facilities were sold off to civilians in later years. Then the government got paranoid and bought most of them back for fear of organized crime groups utilizing them. Then the government demolished them.
    I bet with the state of the world some body is banging their head on a wall in the government archives.
    There is also a YouTube video about a bunker in the UK that has 60 miles worth of tunnels and huge chambers in excess of 30000 square feet some of them. This super structure is, or was for sale. There was even an M934 that went with it sitting in one corridor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Section8 View Post
    there were at least one or two build in every province / territory in Canada from the 1950s to 1960s.
    Most were all built to self sustainability for at least 30 years according to one article.
    The bulk of these facilities were sold off to civilians in later years. Then the government got paranoid and bought most of them back for fear of organized crime groups utilizing them. Then the government demolished them.
    I had a beer with the lawyer who was part of the effort to re-gain the Penhold facility after the new owner rented space to a bike club. He said it was an embarrassing situation and is referred to at the Metro bar as the Bonker Bunker Blunder. Here's a sad little video of the demise of what could have been a very sharp museum.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzsdYD_Hmis


    By 1961, there were 6 out of 10 completed, hardened, ventilated underground structures recorded in Civil Defence preparations in Alberta. From the Gerhart building downtown Edmonton to the most secretive project covered under the guise of a new maternity hospital in West Edmonton.

    Here are some of what I think are the most important stories coming from those who served the Diefenbunker "Iceberg". The buildings, vehicles and items are neat but the stories of individuals that hooked up together to provide a COG in Continental Defence are the best.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ejb9_H844


    I also found info from a Downtown Survey conducted in 61' that there were enough 'shelters' in downtown Edmonton to house 70,000 + people while the staff, employees and visitors that occupied those spaces only numbered 29,000 individuals. We were trying to be ready. "Many" businesses had already developed internal preparedness plans knowing hiding was only a back-up plan to escaping the City.

    Here's a little walk around the 1st known Canadian "Iceberg". You can dance if you want to.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV3ck9xPmW8


    Even though the Americans transferred military vehicles into the Civil Defence program, we're not seeing many Canadian, ex-military vehicles used by Canadians. Lots of Civilian Vehicles were used like the Mobile Civil Defence unit in Lethbridge so more vehicle hunting is on the list. Here are two examples of civilian Vehicles......

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